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Poll Question: Which way does your Knights face?
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Both looking left    
  11 (26.2%)
Both looking right    
  2 (4.8%)
Both looking forward    
  11 (26.2%)
Both looking back    
  0 (0.0%)
Both diagonally towards the centre    
  7 (16.7%)
One diagonally forward the other back    
  0 (0.0%)
Both looking at each other    
  9 (21.4%)
Both looking away from each other    
  2 (4.8%)
Both look diagonally back at you    
  0 (0.0%)
Both diagonally back away, left & right    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 42
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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #17 - 11/03/06 at 09:56:43
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I wonder, could the way you put the knights be a 'tell'? i.e. would players of different styles be prone to turn them in a certain direction?! E.g. I can imagine that knights facing forward could be the choice of a very aggressive player...  Wink

Does anyone here know which way some of the big names put their knights?
  
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Reply #16 - 11/03/06 at 06:11:18
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I don't know why, but I absolutely hate when the knights are pointing sideways.  I always will make sure they are pointing forward.  There's just something psychologically frustrating about seeing those knights sideways.  Forwards they must go!   

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Reply #15 - 11/03/06 at 02:26:50
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My knights still maintain their initial direction thro-out the game.  So, if I play the Alekhine they both look in opposite directions ie on c6 & b6. Does look as if they both had a quarrel!
  

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Reply #14 - 11/03/06 at 00:26:38
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After the game has begun, I don't have time anymore for such trivialities, how interesting they still are. So during the game I place them in random directions. Due to physical causes they keep on looking forward more or less.
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #13 - 11/02/06 at 11:10:37
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It fills me with horror that 5 people (now 6!) in such a short list prefer to have the knights facing forward.
Facing left or right, even diagonal; that's all fine with me...but straight ahead?  Undecided Thats just wrong.  Yuck!

I used to have them face each other; until I started to play the mainline King's Indian as White.
I found myself wondering (actually during games, mind you)  if that knight on b5 had come from g1 or b1 originally.

"Well...it's facing left, so it must be from the kingside.  Oh wait, they're both facing left now.  hmm...maybe I rotated it when I captured on d4.  No wait, that knight came from c3 and captured when he played that stupid ...b5 sacrifice.  No, that knight already moved back....right?" 

Basically I needed any excuse to avoid calculating ...f5 yet again.

Anyway, I decided I didn't care which way they were facing anymore and resolved to never waste clock time on such silliness again. 
But then I read that Tony Miles was watching some players analyze their game in a post-mordem when he simply leaned over the board, adjusted one of the guy's knights and said something like "this knight needs to be facing left.  Otherwise, that combination won't work."   
That got a little laugh out of the players and it made me decide to always face my knights to the left as a strange tribute to Tony.

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ps - I haven't gone so far as to play 1...a6, but a little tribute is good enough right?


  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #12 - 11/02/06 at 10:04:19
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Next question: How do you put the knights during the game? Do you keep their initial orientation or do you change them according to the square they move to or perhaps the relative position of the two knights? 

How would you put the knights if you have moved Ng1-e2-c3 and Nb1-d2-f3, compared to your initial positioning?

I have my knights facing each other in the initial position and keep the g1-knight facing left (and the b1-knight facing right) throughout the game.
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #11 - 11/02/06 at 09:11:37
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MNb wrote on 11/02/06 at 01:12:27:
Thanks. I voted diagonally looking towards the centre. Actually my knights are heading for c3 and f3 (c6 and f6), so they make an angle of about 60 degrees.


When I was a kid I also used to put them that way, then I gradually went over to them facing each other. Maybe because Nc3/Nd4 and Nf6/Ne5 in the Dragon & Leningrad somehow looked more appealing with the horsies that way...

At the moment I'm a bit surprised that option 1 is lagging behind, I had the impression that mimicking the demo board was the most common?!


The most unusual set up I've seen used is probably IM/GM? Zagorskis' in Politiken 1997(?) who had Ng1 looking diagonally forward to the right and Nb1 diagonally backwards to the left. 

And since I still remember that - I didnt even play the guy, just strolled by lookin at his games during 11 rounds - then perhaps how you put the knights isn't totally without meaning?!  Shocked
  
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Reply #10 - 11/02/06 at 09:09:31
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On normal pieces, i don't like them straightly vertical (ie. facing either player directly), but otherwise any way is fine.

On 2-D demo boards, i don't like them with their backs facing each other (i.e. they shouldn't both face outwards).
  
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Reply #9 - 11/02/06 at 08:53:38
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I make it a sport not to place them similar in any way, to annoy geometrical purists.
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #8 - 11/02/06 at 01:54:00
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JEH wrote on 11/01/06 at 22:51:08:
Prince-Nez wrote on 11/01/06 at 22:04:56:
Good Knights should always be looking at their King when the game starts.  Wink


and naughty Knights should be looking at their Queen   Smiley


Mine are gay. so they look at each other! Shocked
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #7 - 11/02/06 at 01:12:27
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Thanks. I voted diagonally looking towards the centre. Actually my knights are heading for c3 and f3 (c6 and f6), so they make an angle of about 60 degrees.
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #6 - 11/02/06 at 00:03:46
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MNb wrote on 11/01/06 at 21:56:02:
S**t, I voted the wrong one. May I have another try?


OK, I've added a chance to remove your vote and then revote...
  
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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #5 - 11/01/06 at 22:51:08
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Prince-Nez wrote on 11/01/06 at 22:04:56:
Good Knights should always be looking at their King when the game starts.  Wink


and naughty Knights should be looking at their Queen   Smiley
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #4 - 11/01/06 at 22:04:57
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I was once at a local tournament and noticed that before a particular game, the first player arrived and proceedeed to immediately point both of his kinghts backward and then made his move. When the second player arrived, he did the same thing before making his reply. 

I found it really odd. I was wondering is it was some kind of weird pshychological trick.  Shocked

Does anyone think it really could throw off an opponent by the way a knight is facing?
  

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Re: Knight Poll
Reply #3 - 11/01/06 at 22:04:56
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Good Knights should always be looking at their King when the game starts.  Wink
  

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