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Re: Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
Reply #5 - 04/26/07 at 21:21:03
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If you indeed intend to combine the KID and the Pirc, 1...g6 is very logical. You can play ...Nf6 at about every stage. In some dangerous variations you may postpone it, having other good options.
You will not have any problem against the queen's pawn stuff either: 1.d4 g6 2.Nf3 Bg7 and 3...d6 and you just see, what setup White chooses. Sometimes you even might consider 4...f5, getting a good version of the Leningrad.
Extra possibilities like 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.c3 don't look dangerous either.
1...g6 is really an opening, where avoiding main lines does not make sense for White.
  

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Re: Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
Reply #4 - 04/26/07 at 10:48:37
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Good question indeed. Imho many players are too obsessed with getting their opponent out of book. So, when faced with an offer to transpose they neglect it and play strange moves after 3.c4.

White players are the same bunch, btw. A lot of d4-players don´t want to be bothered with the KID or other openings from the "daring defences" section. If black doesn´t answer 1.d4 d5 they shun theory and play 2.e4 or 2.Nc3 to transpose to the modern or pirc.

I haven´t found a good way to avoid this (I usually play the KID), so I need some knowledge in pirc or modern - I opted for the modern, as it seems to offer more dynamic chances.

Of course I wouldn´t mind a transposition to the KID - still I´ve never met a 1.d4 player who lets me get into my preferred book.

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Re: Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
Reply #3 - 01/23/07 at 15:34:46
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been reading for months - finally, my first post! Cheesy

anyway, I'm a (not very good  Embarrassed) Pirc addict, and also studied the KID. Certainly made sense to be familiar with both, as the pawn structures / development are so familiar.  Have also recently begun looking at the Modern / Hippo.

One thing I noticed is that the Pirc and KID are very different in long term plans : in the KID black would like to play on the Kingside (it is very fun to roll over your opponent using your KS pawns!).  This is completely opposite from the Pirc, where black hopes to play QS, and/or break down white's center.  black needs to survive on the KS - not attack!   

So... my feeling is that Pirc / Modern players avoid the KID so that they can keep their long-term plans simpler / consistent....
  
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Re: Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
Reply #2 - 01/22/07 at 10:37:53
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It would be right in OTB play , but it was played in corr. play , ( 2000/2200 : as for me , I am 2285 )
Each player has a big and efficient Database , so it's quite foolish to hope making a surprise
What is hard to understand for me is why no "Modern" player is also a KID player : 
Opening structures are not so different ( chiefly when White has played c4 )
There are surely deeper reasons
  
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Re: Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
Reply #1 - 01/21/07 at 20:36:22
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Probably because KID has sooo much theory. Personally im KIDer and when i briefly flirted with the modern last year, i was always thrilled to see c4.   Grin
Modern players typically play it to avoid all that theory. They hope to outplay the opponent in positions they know more about. Thus they play the hippo etc where plans are more important and where there is a chance that White has no idea what to do. Add this to the fact that the Modern is so flexible and there are so many underknown variations to choose from and voila: no mainline KID for you! Cheesy
  
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Why players of Modern Defence don't like KID ?
01/21/07 at 18:39:54
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On 
1 e4 g6
2 d4 Bg7
I always play 3 c4 , in order to get a KID , rather than a Pirc
But I was unsuccessful : none was willing to play a "regular" KID
One played an obscure variation of Averbakh System , another a Hippopotamus , and a third a Pterodactyl
Would it be possible that some players of "Modern" explain me why They avoid the KID , which yet has a much better fame ?
  
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