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Re: Benko book
Reply #11 - 02/04/10 at 00:03:47
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Paul Cumbers wrote on 02/03/10 at 23:51:42:
Markovich wrote on 03/13/07 at 12:20:14:
Against 5.f3 Pinski recommends 5...e6  6. e4 exd4  7. e5 Qe7  8. Qe2 Ng8  9. Nc3 Bb7  10. Nh3 c4, and is fairly dismissive of White's chances.  

Parenthetically, for a while I thought that an interesting piece sac, not considered by Pinski, might be good:  11. Nf4 Qc5  12. Nfxd5!? Bxd5  13. Be3 Qb4  14. a3 Qa5  15. Bd2 Be6  16. Nd5 Qd8  17. Qe4, but I eventually decided that Black is O.K. here.

I've been analysing this piece sac, and it seems quite promising for White (if he plays 17.Qxc4!). However, I've just discovered that Nakamura has already beaten me to it:

Nakamura v Vachier Lagrave (Cap d'Agde, 2008)
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 a6 5.f3 e6 6.e4 exd5 7.e5 Qe7 8.Qe2 Ng8 9.Nc3 Bb7 10.Nh3 c4 11.Nf4 Qc5 12.Nfxd5 Bxd5 13.Be3 Qb4 14.a3 Qa5 
15.Bd2 Be6 16.Nd5 Qd8 17.Qxc4 Ra7 18.Rc1 axb5 19.Nc7+ Rxc7 20.Qxc7 Nc6 21.Qxd8+ Kxd8 22.Bxb5 Nxe5 23.Ba5+ Ke7 24.Rc8 f5 25.Bb4+ d6 26.Rxf8 Kxf8 27.Bxd6+ Kf7 28.Bxe5 Nf6 29.O-O Rc8 30.a4 Nd5 31.Ra1 Rc2 32.Bd3 Rd2 33.Bc4 Rc2 34.b3 Ne3 35.Bxe6+ Kxe6 36.Bd4 f4 37.Bxe3 fxe3 38.a5 Kd5 39.a6 Rc8 40.a7 Ra8 41.Kf1 1-0

There's some analysis of the game here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&...

Has Nakamura put 6...exd5 out of business??


Well I'll tell you what, Paul, if 6...exd5 is out of business, then 5.f3 is in business and not only that, but I'm a 5.f3 player again.  Which suits me fine since 5.f3 has always smelled like a refutation to me.

Say, off topic, I saw a nice anti-QGA game of yours with 3.e4 e5 and subsequently White's b4 against the c5 bishop, in my data base.  Pretty good chess, that.
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #10 - 02/03/10 at 23:51:42
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Markovich wrote on 03/13/07 at 12:20:14:
Against 5.f3 Pinski recommends 5...e6  6. e4 exd4  7. e5 Qe7  8. Qe2 Ng8  9. Nc3 Bb7  10. Nh3 c4, and is fairly dismissive of White's chances.  

Parenthetically, for a while I thought that an interesting piece sac, not considered by Pinski, might be good:  11. Nf4 Qc5  12. Nfxd5!? Bxd5  13. Be3 Qb4  14. a3 Qa5  15. Bd2 Be6  16. Nd5 Qd8  17. Qe4, but I eventually decided that Black is O.K. here.

I've been analysing this piece sac, and it seems quite promising for White (if he plays 17.Qxc4!). However, I've just discovered that Nakamura has already beaten me to it:

Nakamura v Vachier Lagrave (Cap d'Agde, 2008)
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 a6 5.f3 e6 6.e4 exd5 7.e5 Qe7 8.Qe2 Ng8 9.Nc3 Bb7 10.Nh3 c4 11.Nf4 Qc5 12.Nfxd5 Bxd5 13.Be3 Qb4 14.a3 Qa5 
15.Bd2 Be6 16.Nd5 Qd8 17.Qxc4 Ra7 18.Rc1 axb5 19.Nc7+ Rxc7 20.Qxc7 Nc6 21.Qxd8+ Kxd8 22.Bxb5 Nxe5 23.Ba5+ Ke7 24.Rc8 f5 25.Bb4+ d6 26.Rxf8 Kxf8 27.Bxd6+ Kf7 28.Bxe5 Nf6 29.O-O Rc8 30.a4 Nd5 31.Ra1 Rc2 32.Bd3 Rd2 33.Bc4 Rc2 34.b3 Ne3 35.Bxe6+ Kxe6 36.Bd4 f4 37.Bxe3 fxe3 38.a5 Kd5 39.a6 Rc8 40.a7 Ra8 41.Kf1 1-0

There's some analysis of the game here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=215&...

Has Nakamura put 6...exd5 out of business??
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #9 - 03/13/07 at 12:20:14
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lnn2 wrote on 03/13/07 at 07:36:52:
well i didn't find the fianchetto 10. Rb1 stuff in Cox's book 100% convincing : http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1159675426
Even if White knows all the theory he still needs to play with considerable accuracy.

If I am a Benko player I'll really be concerned about the 4.f3/5.f3 stuff.  Martin gave a slightly offbeat line involving a delayed d7-d6 (and intending e7-e6 in most cases) on his Chessbase DVD. It doesn't look completely correct to me, is this also what Pinski recommends?


Against 5.f3 Pinski recommends 5...e6  6. e4 exd4  7. e5 Qe7  8. Qe2 Ng8  9. Nc3 Bb7  10. Nh3 c4, and is fairly dismissive of White's chances.   

Parenthetically, for a while I thought that an interesting piece sac, not considered by Pinski, might be good:  11. Nf4 Qc5  12. Nfxd5!? Bxd5  13. Be3 Qb4  14. a3 Qa5  15. Bd2 Be6  16. Nd5 Qd8  17. Qe4, but I eventually decided that Black is O.K. here.
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #8 - 03/13/07 at 09:09:35
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Inn2 - I'd agree 10 Rb1 isn't that strong - I remember Magnus Carlsen having no real trouble defusing that set up. I'd also say that it's very tricky for white to play and if he goes wrong he usually loses the pawn and has an inferior position, whilst  for Black he can play natural moves.

I thought 5 f3 e6 and ab were ok for Black but have there been any developments ?.   
4 f3 I can't say that I have ever seen that move before ! What's the idea ?
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #7 - 03/13/07 at 07:36:52
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well i didn't find the fianchetto 10. Rb1 stuff in Cox's book 100% convincing : http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1159675426
Even if White knows all the theory he still needs to play with considerable accuracy.

If I am a Benko player I'll really be concerned about the 4.f3/5.f3 stuff.  Martin gave a slightly offbeat line involving a delayed d7-d6 (and intending e7-e6 in most cases) on his Chessbase DVD. It doesn't look completely correct to me, is this also what Pinski recommends?
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #6 - 03/13/07 at 01:16:16
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JonHecht wrote on 03/12/07 at 18:39:01:
Anyone have info about what Martin's new Play the Benko book is going to be like?


I for one will be most interested to see what he recommends against the Fianchetto and 10. Rb1.  I did not find Pinski's recommendations on this score to be very convincing.  You can write a book and make a pass at how to play against the critical line, but it's another thing actually to play it and have to stare down the barrel of White's gun.
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #5 - 03/12/07 at 18:39:01
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Anyone have info about what Martin's new Play the Benko book is going to be like?
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #4 - 03/11/07 at 23:26:58
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I think Steffen Pedersen's book for Gambit Publications in 1999 is the best
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #3 - 03/11/07 at 17:43:14
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I like the one from Jan Pinski very much. There is an introduction with the most important pawn structures/ideas.

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Re: Benko book
Reply #2 - 03/11/07 at 10:02:47
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Neil McDonald's book, the Benkö gambit revealed is quite interesting to understand the ideas behind this opening.
I have also the book written by Raetsky and Chetverik (Starting Out: Benoni Systems). A short explanation but with a lot of ideas and principles. 
What I like in both these books is that white's point of view is taken into consideration, they are no magical recept for black.
  
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Re: Benko book
Reply #1 - 03/11/07 at 08:16:15
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Fedorowicz's book is regarded as the best but it's very old now ! Seems like Fed has moved onto the KID .Byron Jacobs has written a few decent books as well.

Pinski's book is the latest i know but I am not sure how good the analysis is.
  
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Benko book
03/11/07 at 02:07:46
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What is the best Benko book?
  
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