I too quite like Pedersen's book and learnt a lot from it when playing the Bogo as part of the Tango. It should be said, though, that you don't have to follow up 3..Bb4+ with ...Qe7, ...d6 and ...e5. The old and very solid Andersen plan of exchanging bishops and going ...d5 still appears very solid and pretty reasonable IMO.

MNb wrote on 03/21/07 at 02:11:21:


Well what he wins or not. It is a different position that arise. And 6. d5!?  is considered interesting by IM Pedersen in his gambit Bogo book. You can not look blindly in the database. Then we will never find ANY new interesting move at all.

My point is that anyone who buys Alburt and Romans book should be aware of this gap.

kalle99 wrote on 03/20/07 at 20:18:08:


IM Tangborn wrote some repertoire books for black. Vs 1.d4 he chose Nimzo/Bogo-Indian. (Also Acc dragon vs 1.e4) Very light in coverage.

Antillian wrote on 03/20/07 at 21:27:46:


It has everything exept   4....Be7 (solid but passiv) But it is strange the variation is not included. The book is rather comprehensiv anyhow. I like it very much. Good anotation. 30 pages of positional themes.

A book for the Bogo-Indian player.

The discussion was this :

Romans and Alburts book has a serious drawback. It has nothing against the Catalan opening. 
 
I mean this move order : 
 
1. d4 Nf6 
2. c4 e6 
3. g3 
 
The book does not mention the Catalan at ALL. And it does not give any example of transposition to the catalan-bogo. 
 
According to Romans and Alburts book. How would black meet 
 
1. d4 Nf6 
2. c4 e6 
3. g3 
 
and transpose to the given line of the Bogo-Indian ? 
 
Maybe I am wrong but I have not found it yet. 
 
Maybe the authors saves this to the second edition ?   Isn´t that strange ? They call it a complete repertoire book. Last but not least : The catalan opening is a VERY good opening. And it has very good effect if black cant handle it. 
 
 
I even e-mailed Alburt about this . I did ask him the question. I asked him nearly 1.5 years ago and he has NOT answered me so far. What a crook ha ? Even if I have missed something he could have told me that. You can find his mail adress in the book. 

An just a note : Roman also made a quick repertoire video for black. It was Nimzo/Bogo against 1.d4.
And in that video he included a repertoire line against the catalan !!
 
 
 

MNb wrote on 03/20/07 at 20:43:46:


The difference is this : Lets go the normal Bogo-Indian way :

1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 Qe7 5.g3 Nc6 6. Bg2

Compare this with the Catalan-Bogo move order :

1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 Bb4+ 4. Bd2 Qe7 5. Bg2 Nc6  AND white has the possibility to play

6. d5!? (d5 is not possible the normal Bogo-Indian move order...Only if you want to lose a pawn).

White can even capture the knight on c6..which is bad of course. But it could confuse an inexperienced player.

And white doesnt even have to put the knight on f3 at all. And only that could lead to a different game.

That is NOT possible in the normal Bogo-Indian move order and Alburt and Roman has nothing against the catalan-bogo move order and the possible positions arising from it. Incredible how they could miss it.

thibdb13 wrote on 03/16/07 at 15:47:27:


Romans and Alburts book has a serious drawback. It has nothing against the Catalan opening.

I mean this move order :

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. g3

The book does not mention the Catalan at ALL. And it does not give any example of transposition to the catalan-bogo.

According to Romans and Alburts book. How would black meet

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. g3

and transpose to the given line of the Bogo-Indian ?

Maybe I am wrong but I have not found it yet.

Maybe the authors saves this to the second edition ?  

I even e-mailed Alburt about this . I did ask him the question. I asked him nearly 1.5 years ago and he has NOT answered me so far. What a crook ha ? Even if I have missed something he could have told me that. You can find his mail adress in the book.


Isn´t that strange ? They call it a complete repertoire. Last but not least : The catalan opening is a VERY good opening. And it has very good effect if black cant handle it.

By the way : there is a rather good book on the Bogo-Indian.

Title : "The New Bogo-Indian" : Author :  Shaun Taulbut   Cadogan chess.    183 pages.

The book concists of 82 annotated games. 

http://www.amazon.com/New-Bogo-Indian-Cadogan-Chess-Books/dp/1857440269

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Don't be afraid. This book is very good. For each variation you have a general explanation and a list of plans for white and for black, you get also an explanation about the pawn structure for each variation and last but not least the theory.
So, you can learn the principles and the theory will only help you to go deeper in your knowledge of the opening. A very paedalogical book.