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Re: winawer poisoned pawn books
Reply #5 - 12/01/07 at 05:54:47
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Leeroth, Paddy, Inn2 thanks all for your suggestions.

Paddy

The Uhlmann book - is it significantly different to his best games French collection? Enough different stuff to merit purchase?

Correspondence chess mag - looks worth a look certainly. Tried to google but stumped. How to get hold of this publication? 
Will rebuy PtF 2.
Other book - later maybe...
Thanks for your help!

LeeRoth

Great source - printed out just now, will put on my wading boots...
V useful biblio too, yes.
Seems he thinks that Winkelman f3 malarckey not as bad as one may expect.

Thanks again, all.
  
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Re: winawer poisoned pawn books
Reply #4 - 12/01/07 at 03:35:35
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CC IM John Knudsen, who used to play the PP with both colors, put out a newsletter devoted to the opening.  I found the first six issues at the links below (I don't know if there were any more of them).  They're a bit dated, but short and sweet, and definitely worth perusing.  Of special interest to this thread, there's usually a section in each discussing the Winawer literature.  (Incl. ChessPub!)   


http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/01.txt
http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/02.txt
http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/03.txt
http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/04.txt
http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/05.txt
http://www.correspondencechess.com/knudsen/twr/06.txt
  
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Re: winawer poisoned pawn books
Reply #3 - 11/29/07 at 11:34:54
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Bibs wrote on 11/29/07 at 02:30:27:
Inn2
Thanks for that.

I have Khalif, Psakhis, Pedersen. Khalif naturally very thorough and impressive. Psakhis bit of a phone directory - as noted in previous thread - a shocking format, but fair content. Pedersen - agree - unimpressive. Chess book by numbers.
Have McD's Winawer book too - bit too short frankly, but what is there is reasonable.

Had watson 1 and 2 years back, but moving house few times, then country - got left behind. Have PtF3 here but his winawer line is of course busted. Fortunately was shown the bust by a visiting GMelect mate before I played the line (he lost in it).

Yeah - the real PP book has yet to be written (in English anyhow). Other languages? Mnb may be the expert here...? Anyone?

Agree. Perhaps Neil could pen one - an e4 e6 repertoire book maybe. With Guimard thrown in to boot. 

Thanks again Inn2,

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A few other sources that might be useful;

Much of the "busting" of the PP has been taking place in correspondence chess - check out especially the white games of Jonathan Tait. He wrote an influential article in Correspondence Chess 127 (!995) about his experiences with what has become known in PP circles as the Tait Variation: 13 Rb1 0-0-0 14 h4 Nf5 15 h5 d4 16 Rg1.

Französische Verteidigung - richtig gespielt - Ein Leben lang Französisch 2004 by Wolfgang Uhlmann, 2nd expanded edition (75 games). A nice hardback (but inexpensive) published by Joachim Beyer Verlag.

FRENCH POISONED PAWN by Zeuthen & Jarlnaes, Copenhagen 1971 (114pp) (Zeuthen was the co-author with Larsen of the famous ZOOM book). I don't have this but it could be a useful source of earlier material and PP themes.

By the way, Watson 2 is still well worth having.
  
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Re: winawer poisoned pawn books
Reply #2 - 11/29/07 at 02:30:27
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Thanks for that.

I have Khalif, Psakhis, Pedersen. Khalif naturally very thorough and impressive. Psakhis bit of a phone directory - as noted in previous thread - a shocking format, but fair content. Pedersen - agree - unimpressive. Chess book by numbers.
Have McD's Winawer book too - bit too short frankly, but what is there is reasonable.

Had watson 1 and 2 years back, but moving house few times, then country - got left behind. Have PtF3 here but his winawer line is of course busted. Fortunately was shown the bust by a visiting GMelect mate before I played the line (he lost in it).

Yeah - the real PP book has yet to be written (in English anyhow). Other languages? Mnb may be the expert here...? Anyone?

Agree. Perhaps Neil could pen one - an e4 e6 repertoire book maybe. With Guimard thrown in to boot. 

Thanks again Inn2,

Bibs

  
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Re: winawer poisoned pawn books
Reply #1 - 11/29/07 at 02:00:29
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Psakhis - Best overview I've seen (though fairly short - not more than 10 pages). He thinks Black is quite busted, but the line he recommends for White doesn't look so terrifying. 

Pedersen- forget it

Watson 2nd ed - typical Watson book, not much "plans", sold it years ago, at that time suspected most of his lines can't stand the test of time (or Fritz).

Khalifman- have not seen this, but strongly suspect this should be best of the lot, his books tend to contain nice explanations, must be useful for black players even though white repertoire book. 

probably your best sources are Chesspub, Khalifman and Psakhis. 
am looking for a good Winawer PP book too. Neil if you're reading this, please write one Smiley
  
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C18: winawer poisoned pawn books
11/29/07 at 01:19:27
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All, wonder if you can help please.

This follows on from the previous thread.

Suggestions for decent books for overview of winawer poisoned pawn? Ideas, plans. Am around 2300 I guess but easy and straightforward is good for me.

I looked thru all previous 19 pages of threads but couldn't find anything specific hence the present post.

Have half memory of John Watson's first book doing so, but havent seen it for many years, so memory may fail me.

Other suggested works? Doesnt have to be recent - can use dbase, Neil McD and here for that. 

Languages - can manage French, German, English (and Japanese - but that seems unlikely to be of help!)

Much appreciate any help on this front,

regards

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