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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #8 - 01/11/08 at 18:11:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	chk wrote on 01/11/08 at 14:05:22: J how about complementing the c-k with the main line Scandinavian? How about complementing it with a brimming tablespoon of sodium cyanide? Seriously, the last time I played this defense was when I thought 5...gxf6 was viable. That at least produced dymanic positions with winning chances.

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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #7 - 01/11/08 at 14:05:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Just some brainstorming, as I really have no experience with the c-k (though the chk rings a bell ). If one gets bored, how effective is to introduce some variety in a c-k repertoire by chosing akin openings? i.e. how about complementing the c-k with the main line Scandinavian (e.g. the latter used only against a particular type of opponents)? Or when playing against the c-k advance alternate between (1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5) 3. ... Bf5 and 3. ... c5 (the latter resembling the French; a tempo down that is, but is playable), or the caro-pirc hybrid (c6 & g6 Gurgenidze) etc.? I admit this is a rather exotic option in composing a repertoire..

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lg God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 606 Location: Lisbon Joined: 04/18/05 Gender:	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #6 - 01/11/08 at 13:25:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	In the lgames in latest tournaments we have seen Ivanchuk and Grichul playing the CK. I dont think it is drawish.


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ANDREW BRETT God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 622 Joined: 07/07/06	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #5 - 01/11/08 at 11:48:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	The Caro is quite sound and not as dull as some people make out. Bareev and Dreev more recently have been the main players for Black.


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #4 - 01/10/08 at 14:27:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	OK what crime did you commit to punish yourself in this inhumane way? Seriously though, I would say the CK is passive and that you can end up in positions where you are slightly worse and just have to sit them out. But very often you get good endgames, counterattacks and chances of getting crushed are slim. Basically it is an "equality first" opening. You try to equalise the game first and only then start doing active stuff. So in short you will get some boring games and endgames at which you are slightly worse, but you will also punish a lot of overpressers and win a lot of endgames. Of all the first moves vs 1.e4 I think it is the safest and thus also chances of winning are less, but that it is easier to master than 1..e5. Plus if you get bored you can always switch and keep it on as a 2nd string defense. I found it is very efficient against attacking players (they overpress often) and against people who find it difficult to make a plan.

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Lou_Cyber Full Member Offline "I didn´t understand that. It must be true." Posts: 237 Location: Rendsburg Joined: 01/28/05 Gender:	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #3 - 01/10/08 at 11:15:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	wolfsblut wrote on 01/09/08 at 10:38:12: I think about to play 1..e5, but I love to make 1....c6 work( because I like the idea to play the slav)....- is the Caro-Kann-Defence worth the study and to play for the rest of my chess-career (My rating is about 2180). Hi wolfsblut, this depends on how long you plan to play chess in future! I guess CK is solid and will not be busted easily. It had the reputation of being drawish. The main trouble was that it was said that it is very hard for black to play for a win, unless white tries too hard to win. What put me off the CK is that white has developed a lot of new dangerous systems against the CK in the last 10 years. Black has to prepare against each of this system. Too much work for too little chances according to me but I am weaker than you are. If you prefer a slow developing and solid opening 1....e5 might not be best for you. How about the French or the dreaded 1...d6 setup with a likely transposition to a Philidor? Lou

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nyoke God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 593 Location: BELGIUM Joined: 12/31/06 Gender:	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #2 - 01/09/08 at 22:09:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	You could also try to reach a Panov through the ...Nf6 Scandinavian. Don't know though whether white has good possibilities to evade the Panov.


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Viking God Member Offline Posts: 673 Location: Norway Joined: 10/12/04 Gender:	Re: Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? Reply #1 - 01/09/08 at 12:37:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	CK will never be refuted. The most rapid changing theory in the CK I would think is in the advance 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 - which requires study. Get the book by Houska - although the panov repertoire suggested may be too bold. There are other more solid and most probably better panov alternatives available.


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wolfsblut Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 111 Joined: 06/02/06	Caro-Kann for the rest of my chess-career? 01/09/08 at 10:38:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi, I`am looking for a solid and not so fast developing defence against 1.e4. I think about to play 1..e5, but I love to make 1....c6 work( because I like the idea to play the slav)....- is the Caro-Kann-Defence worth the study and to play for the rest of my chess-career (My rating is about 2180). I´am not afraid of defending and the idea to look forward to an coming endgame is nice. But is it to passive? Or like Mr. Watson said: Are there postions you have to handle where you `are slightly worse and have nothing to do`and they can´t be helped? So, what is your opinion on this? Give me hope or/and a good advice! Thanks in advance! greetings wolfsblut


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