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Question: Who is the Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum?

MNb

10 (25.6%)

Smyslov_Fan

5 (12.8%)

Willempie

4 (10.3%)

Alumbrado

8 (20.5%)

IMJohnCox

3 (7.7%)

Glenn Snow

0 (0.0%)

Micawber

4 (10.3%)

Bonsai

1 (2.6%)

IMRichardPalliser

2 (5.1%)

Matemax

2 (5.1%)

Total votes: 39

« Created by: DoubledPawns on: 03/10/08 at 05:05:50 »

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Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? (Read 19610 times)

ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2534 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #24 - 03/11/08 at 23:12:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	I feel I deserve an Honorable Mention for killing one of Lev's threads: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1202004100/30#30 Not exactly a small feat!


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MagicTrick Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 Location: Munich Joined: 01/14/08 Gender:	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #23 - 03/11/08 at 19:20:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	LeeRoth wrote on 03/11/08 at 01:48:32: As a write-in candidate, I nominate TopNotch. His 20..Bxb2!! in the Dragon was the single best post we've ever had. It was orignal, topical and good. Everyone else just posting opinions or things copied out of books. LeeRoth Could you give a link to the post?


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Matemax God Member Offline Chesspub gives you strength! Posts: 1302 Joined: 11/04/07	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #22 - 03/11/08 at 18:12:59	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: I will probably have to remove two from this list. You may remove me - I clearly feel that the "Oscar goes to ..." - someone else, but feel honored to be on this list. I have a lot of fun here and thats enough for me The fabulous post in this thread from linksspringer for me really lightens my heart - thank you!


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #21 - 03/11/08 at 04:54:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	LeeRoth wrote on 03/11/08 at 01:48:32: As a write-in candidate, I nominate TopNotch. His 20..Bxb2!! in the Dragon was the single best post we've ever had. It was orignal, topical and good. Everyone else just posting opinions or things copied out of books. I recall Golubev quoting this analysis! Yes, this was a truly impressive post by Topnotch. I think his analysis and general advice have pretty consistently been on the mark and I've always enjoyed his style - particularly where it relates to his readiness to call someone out for making overblown claims (for example, with regard to the supposed merits of certain - er, not entirely sound - openings). A worthy candidate, I agree!

	"If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates." -Jay Leno
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Smyslov_Fan YaBB Moderator Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #20 - 03/11/08 at 02:13:34	Post Tools	Print Post
	As one of the candidates, I of course vote for myself. Should we have a debate here to determine who is the best? I'm actually writing because when I log on, I look forward to reading Alumbrado's and IM John Cox' chess related comments the most. I really enjoy the cameraderie of Willempie and MNb, but we three all have been guilty of trashy posts. On the other hand, Willempie, MNb and myself are prolific because we branch out away from purely chessic topics more often than some of the others. There are many people who have made consistently high quality posts and I am not sure which criteria to use. If I were to vote based purely on chess analysis, I would vote for John Cox, dom, Alumbrado and Fernando Semprun (in no particular order). If we are discussing chess instruction, I like to read Markovich, Paddy and Glenn Snow. (I'd like to think I contribute something to this as well.) If we are discussing sports, I love to argue against Willempie and MNb until they go off on a Dutch sports tandem. But almost every other topic is also made more interesting by them! A relatively new voice has also interested me lately: drkodos has made some very insightful comments. I am honored to be considered in the same group as these excellent contributors, but I don't really know what criteria the voters would use to decide who's best.


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LeeRoth God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 1520 Joined: 10/22/05	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #19 - 03/11/08 at 01:48:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	As a write-in candidate, I nominate TopNotch. His 20..Bxb2!! in the Dragon was the single best post we've ever had. It was orignal, topical and good. Everyone else just posting opinions or things copied out of books. LeeRoth


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Nietzsche Senior Member Offline Huggy Bear is coming. You'd better run. Posts: 394 Location: USA Joined: 02/13/06 Gender:	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #18 - 03/11/08 at 01:35:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	Micawber's analysis is truly great and sometimes inspired. However, John Cox writes much more often and takes on tougher topics. Tough poll! I would bail out and simply assess this position as 'unclear'.

	"By some ardent enthusiasts Chess has been elevated into a science or an art. It is neither; but its principal characteristic seems to be what human nature mostly delights in - a fight." - Em. Lasker
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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #17 - 03/10/08 at 08:04:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 03/09/08 at 11:25:07: thibdb13 wrote on 03/08/08 at 18:51:51: MNb and Willempie are my preferred. A lot of knowledge, good explanations and no arrogance. Heck, I thought that according to Belgians all people born/living north of Moerdijk were arrogant by definition! Exceptions confirm the rule!

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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DoubledPawns Senior Member Offline 1.a3 e5 2.Nc3 Ba3 3.Ne4 Bf8 4.Ra5 Ke7 5.Re5# Posts: 283 Joined: 02/01/08	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #16 - 03/10/08 at 05:05:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Voting is now open for everyone! Should be an interesting poll...

	Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something - Plato
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DoubledPawns Senior Member Offline 1.a3 e5 2.Nc3 Ba3 3.Ne4 Bf8 4.Ra5 Ke7 5.Re5# Posts: 283 Joined: 02/01/08	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #15 - 03/10/08 at 05:03:51	Post Tools	Print Post
	I checked the lists of members and the candidates are (in order of number of posts): MNb Smyslov_Fan Willempie Alumbrado IMJohnCox Glenn Snow Micawber Bonsai IMRichardPalliser Matemax Good luck to each of the nominees!

	Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something - Plato
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DoubledPawns Senior Member Offline 1.a3 e5 2.Nc3 Ba3 3.Ne4 Bf8 4.Ra5 Ke7 5.Re5# Posts: 283 Joined: 02/01/08	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #14 - 03/09/08 at 20:13:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	The results of the posts leave us with the following nominations (in chronological order): Alumbrado MNb (threece) Willempie Bonsai Geof_Strayer Micawber Smyslov_Fan Glenn Snow Dom IMJohnCox IMRichardPalliser Matemax That's 12 nominations. By the way, the reason I didn't include two of the IMs was because of the requirement of over 100 posts. Unfortunately, a poll only provides a maximum of 10 options, so I will probably have to remove two from this list. Should I remove the two people with the least posts? (I agree that this isn't entirely fair, but I don't see any other options if a poll is to be created).

	Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something - Plato
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linksspringer Senior Member Offline Posts: 376 Joined: 09/25/07	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #13 - 03/09/08 at 16:49:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	I nominate Matemax for the amazingly creative ideas and moves he regularly posts.


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #12 - 03/09/08 at 14:55:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 03/08/08 at 17:11:40: I nominate Alumbrado on the Dutch. I guess you mean the opening as I havent seen him post about stroopwafels or Ajax I'd also mention some of the writers of opening books (fe Cox, Palliser, Semkov and Greet) who are willing to discuss the fruits of their labour and sometimes take some heat for doing so.

	If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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HgMan God Member Offline Demand me nothing: What you know, you know Posts: 2330 Location: Up on Cripple Creek Joined: 11/09/04 Gender:	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #11 - 03/09/08 at 13:55:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	There seem to be two issues here: best contributions in terms of analysis and most persuasive discussion. In terms of the former, Glenn Snow and Dom deserve some mention...

	"Luck favours the prepared mind." --Louis Pasteur
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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Best Debater on the ChessPub Forum? Reply #10 - 03/09/08 at 11:25:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	thibdb13 wrote on 03/08/08 at 18:51:51: MNb and Willempie are my preferred. A lot of knowledge, good explanations and no arrogance. Heck, I thought that according to Belgians all people born/living north of Moerdijk were arrogant by definition!

	The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged. GC Lichtenberg
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