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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #20 - 04/10/08 at 13:15:36
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kalle99 wrote on 03/25/08 at 14:43:53:
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #19 - 04/10/08 at 12:11:52
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"Hey, don't forget about How To Think Ahead In Chess - probably not as detailed as the Soltis book (I don't know as I only have the former), but the whole White repertoire section is devoted to the Stonewall Attack. "
What is this book?
Do you know autor and editor?
Thanks in advance
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #18 - 03/31/08 at 12:04:35
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OstapBender wrote on 03/31/08 at 03:38:53:
Markovich wrote on 03/31/08 at 00:24:24:
With the greatest respect for everyone, I am surprised at so much praise being showered on such a lame system.  I admit that the Stonewall is still chess, but 1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 d5 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.f4 Bg4 is just plain good for Black, is it not?  For example 6.Nf3 e6 7.0-0 Bd6.

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Personally I would much rather have Black, though I would not dispute that White has a game.  I would not be so quick to surrender White's += birthright, myself.
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #17 - 03/31/08 at 08:05:08
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OstapBender wrote on 03/31/08 at 03:38:53:
Markovich wrote on 03/31/08 at 00:24:24:
With the greatest respect for everyone, I am surprised at so much praise being showered on such a lame system.  I admit that the Stonewall is still chess, but 1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 d5 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.f4 Bg4 is just plain good for Black, is it not?  For example 6.Nf3 e6 7.0-0 Bd6.

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I can quote that line, too.


Some books give that line as slightly better for Black.  It is a rather telling comment on a White opening when the issue after a handful of moves seems to be whether the evaluation should be = or =+, though that presumably doesn't mean that the opening is question isn't "playable."   
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #16 - 03/31/08 at 03:38:53
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Markovich wrote on 03/31/08 at 00:24:24:
With the greatest respect for everyone, I am surprised at so much praise being showered on such a lame system.  I admit that the Stonewall is still chess, but 1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 d5 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.f4 Bg4 is just plain good for Black, is it not?  For example 6.Nf3 e6 7.0-0 Bd6.

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With the greatest respect for everyone, I am surprised at so much praise being showered on such a lame system.  I admit that the Stonewall is still chess, but 1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 d5 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.f4 Bg4 is just plain good for Black, is it not?  For example 6.Nf3 e6 7.0-0 Bd6.  If White gets Ne5 in, Black backs his bishop up to f5 and dares White to take it off.  My my, such hard moves for Black to find.
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #14 - 03/30/08 at 20:25:39
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Jonathan wrote on 03/30/08 at 01:49:31:
Stonewall is playable

Isn't it?  Smiley
  
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Reply #13 - 03/30/08 at 01:49:31
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Stonewall is playable
  
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Reply #12 - 03/26/08 at 11:15:50
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It is also an eminently practical choice in long play. 

As much because black players may groan inwardly at such presumed non-standard lines which are in fact quite dangerous. See e.g. Kovacevic, the king of d-viations.
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #11 - 03/26/08 at 01:42:35
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies.  Sorry for not searching better and for not getting this in the correct thread (I was thinking d-pawn specials was mainly for 1 d4 2 Nf3 lines).  Anyway, for those that are curious here is Yaacov in action, though he loses this game.  He has beaten a lot of top players in short controls (Christiansen (as noted), Topalov, Dlugy) but I was just wondering if this opening was just a short time control gimmick or would stand up in a longer game.  Thanks for the insights.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W38pz83LV9g
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #10 - 03/25/08 at 18:35:53
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TimS wrote on 03/25/08 at 15:08:36:
kalle99 wrote on 03/25/08 at 13:19:39:


I have a book about Stonewall attack written about GM Soltis.

Probably the only book existing on this opening. A good book.



Hey, don't forget about How To Think Ahead In Chess - probably not as detailed as the Soltis book (I don't know as I only have the former), but the whole White repertoire section is devoted to the Stonewall Attack.


Thanks. I also think Soltis has written another book. White repertoire book based on Colle ,Stonewall,Torre attack.

http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/bookhu/20070000208.shtml
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #9 - 03/25/08 at 15:58:13
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This thread really belongs in the "d-pawn specials" section rather than here.  Perhaps that is why sharpplay missed other discussions on the topic.
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #8 - 03/25/08 at 15:08:36
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kalle99 wrote on 03/25/08 at 13:19:39:


I have a book about Stonewall attack written about GM Soltis.

Probably the only book existing on this opening. A good book.



Hey, don't forget about How To Think Ahead In Chess - probably not as detailed as the Soltis book (I don't know as I only have the former), but the whole White repertoire section is devoted to the Stonewall Attack.
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #7 - 03/25/08 at 14:43:53
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Yes your right. Blitz doesnt count. But the point is that Larry is a very great blitzplayer and attacker himself!
  
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Re: Stonewall Attack...is it playable?
Reply #6 - 03/25/08 at 14:41:11
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blitz...blitz...blitz.
Roll Eyes

what is the fascination? I really am bewildered.

Bullet. Mouse racing. Who is fastest in pursuit of the cheese?

Dont pay so much heed. 

Study long games. Tournament books.

Off to play 5-a-side now. Am good at that. Hang yer boots up Mr Beckham.
  
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