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Re: Openings and Rating
Reply #2 - 07/29/08 at 11:59:47
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... depends on the player, of course

I assume 1800-1900 are often specialized, so if you give them a position they know nothing about and you're familiar with, I'd say it may give you a 50-80 elo advantage

If the players are stronger, I would expect this advantage to decrease in strategical openings and increase in sharp openings.

For example, let's make two players rated 2000 elo play a Najdorf, when the black player has never played a sicilian in his life, plays 1.d4 as white and is a regular caro-kanner - I'd expect the white player advantage to rise up to 100-120 elo advantage for this particular game.

On the opposite, if you take the player in a 1.b3 line, even without any experience, you may expect him to play fairly well after the inital 5 moves...

Of course, all of this is pure speculation  Smiley
  

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Re: Openings and Rating
Reply #1 - 07/29/08 at 11:25:41
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I find your question slightly ambiguous, although I see that you want to know what influence superior knowledge of a particular openings has between two players of roughly equal strength.

By "know the opening well" and "vague ideas", are you referring to knowledge of opening theory, or understanding of the ideas/plans of the opening? (For now I will assume you are referring to the latter).

I would say that superior understanding of an opening is definitely an advantage - although the stronger the players, the less of an advantage this is, as a Grandmaster in an unfamiliar position could still come up with decent plans and moves - say the second-best option instead of the main line. But if a 1600 was unfamiliar with a position in the opening, they could easily choose a completely wrong plan or respond dubiously.

And there is also the advantage that the player more familiar with a position (almost any position, in fact) will obtain a time advantage - how much this influences the playing strength of the players obviously depends on the players themselves.

In a nutshell: It depends on the playing strength of the players and the strengths/weaknesses of each player. 

Hope this answer helps you!
  

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Openings and Rating
07/29/08 at 09:35:07
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If I can give my opponent any roughly equal position five moves into the opening, how much of a rating differential would there normally be if I know the opening well and he only has vague ideas? Consider that both players are at least 1800. Basically, how much of one's rating does the opening comprise?
  
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