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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #10 - 02/08/09 at 22:19:04
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Miki wrote on 01/08/09 at 16:28:02:
ghenghisclown wrote on 01/08/09 at 11:17:03:
Doees any body have a copy of SOS vol.6 or know what "Caro-Kann with a Slav Touch" is referring to. My guess is a Caro with a6 - but that seems extravagant even for an SOS.

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 a6!?

I am not Caro-Kann player but it does make some sense, at least to throw off the booked-up guys.
The idea is to wait and see white's setup and react accordingly. 4.Nf3 for example is met by Bg4 putting the bishop outside the pawn chain - at first sight at least, black looks solid to me. Black will usually not go for dxe4 but will rather keep the position as closed as possible. In some lines ...b5 is also possible.


There's a brief anecdote in Bologan's book on the Chebanenko Slav where he mentions that Chebanenko suggested 3...a6!? after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 to one of his young students in preparation for a tournament once.....
  
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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #9 - 01/08/09 at 17:50:32
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Yes, thanks. I was thinking maybe the article was on 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 a6, although I don't think any masters have ever played that.
  

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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #8 - 01/08/09 at 16:28:02
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ghenghisclown wrote on 01/08/09 at 11:17:03:
Doees any body have a copy of SOS vol.6 or know what "Caro-Kann with a Slav Touch" is referring to. My guess is a Caro with a6 - but that seems extravagant even for an SOS.

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 a6!?

I am not Caro-Kann player but it does make some sense, at least to throw off the booked-up guys.
The idea is to wait and see white's setup and react accordingly. 4.Nf3 for example is met by Bg4 putting the bishop outside the pawn chain - at first sight at least, black looks solid to me. Black will usually not go for dxe4 but will rather keep the position as closed as possible. In some lines ...b5 is also possible.
  
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Re: Is The Caro enough?
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Doees any body have a copy of SOS vol.6 or know what "Caro-Kann with a Slav Touch" is referring to. My guess is a Caro with a6 - but that seems extravagant even for an SOS.
  

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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #6 - 01/03/09 at 19:34:19
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Good catch, I made the correction.  Embarrassed

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Re: Is The Caro enough?
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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #4 - 01/03/09 at 17:33:25
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HoemberChess wrote on 01/03/09 at 00:09:14:
Every sound opening (and the C-K is one) is enough until you reach at least an IM level. (Meanwhile you will have time to develop other chess skills.) You reach an equal position and you beat the opponents from there because of your other strengths. (better knowledge of strategy, endgame etc) Or you get defeated because your opponent knows something better. 
But if you lose from the equal position, then you have to work on the deficiency rather than switching openings.


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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #3 - 01/03/09 at 00:09:14
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Every sound opening (and the C-K is one) is enough until you reach at least an IM level. (Meanwhile you will have time to develop other chess skills.) You reach an equal position and you beat the opponents from there because of your other strengths. (better knowledge of strategy, endgame etc) Or you get defeated because your opponent knows something better. 
But if you lose from the equal position, then you have to work on the deficiency rather than switching openings. 
This is exactly what I myself should learn.  Smiley
  

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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #2 - 10/29/08 at 09:24:27
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Pingudon wrote on 10/29/08 at 00:10:28:
I have been playing the French for a long time. But I think I have had enough. I want to try a new defence. I really want to play the caro. But I wonder... what about those day when you really need to win. That last game in the tournament that goes for the money. Is the caro enough those days?

3 or 4 seasons ago I had 4/4 in team competition on board one. I dont play high level, but usually the opposing team has a "village idiot" who plays much better than the rest and he is put on first board. Trick is that you have to be good at endgames and have patience. Usually white grows increasingly frustrated by seeing his "better position" get slightly worse each move and at some point starts making bad moves in particular in the endgame.

Plus if your opponent needs a draw and you need a win a "drawish" opening will be a psychological weapon as he will have to choose between the sharper main lines (which is risky) or giving you easy equality. Usually they will pick the latter, but that is a mistake and you will rake up many last round points.
  

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Re: Is The Caro enough?
Reply #1 - 10/29/08 at 00:40:19
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Of course. The C-K is asymmetrical by nature. It's only that play can be very slow. Black is in for a long strategical battle. If you are really desperate though:

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Nxf6+ gxf6 (but be sure to prepare for White's King's Fianchetto) and 3.exd5 cxd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.Nc3/5.Nf3 g6.

I have never understood those who say that the C-K is a drawish opening. As White I can't remember a single game against it I did not enjoy and I have tried several setups.
Its adherents usually say you must be confident in the endgame though. The extra bonus is that there are no forced draws; the Najdorf Poisoned Pawn and the Dragon Yugoslav Attack are full of it.
  

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Is The Caro enough?
10/29/08 at 00:10:28
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I have been playing the French for a long time. But I think I have had enough. I want to try a new defence. I really want to play the caro. But I wonder... what about those day when you really need to win. That last game in the tournament that goes for the money. Is the caro enough those days?
  
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