Dear Mr. Arkheim,
In an earlier post, you indicated that you wanted to "learn everything I can from you"
Then you stated, "So let's continue 'JUST FOR FUN'" (emphasis added). Then you stated, "and there Sloughter 'resigned'" (That was certainly news to me
Then you stated, "I hope you understand something new now." (Yes---never trust a stranger bearing gifts)
Well, Mr. Arkheim, if you want to learn from me, I guess that makes me Yoda and you are my trusty apprentice Luke Skywalker. In a student/teacher relationship, it is the job of the teacher to give a performance rating for his/her students on a regular basis e.g. a report card. Here is your first (and I hope your last!) report card. In terms of attendance, you get an "A" for showing up on the posts on a regular basis. For alacrity (cheerful readiness) "A", for effort, "A" for physical education (mental gymnastics) "A" for imagination "A" (It was a great scheme to make me look "bad").
Now for the critical grade, Mr. Arkheim, listen closely; I am only going to tell you this once: If you do not resign your theoretical position in the following move sequence immediately: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5ch c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Qf3 Be7??, then you get an "F" as a theoretician.
I'm am truly sorry that I inadvertently set you up when I listed the candidate moves. When I came up with candidate moves for this position in the span of about a minute (I did forget 8...h6), I made the fatal assumption that Black had compensation for two pawns in the 8...Be7 line, just like the 8...Rb8 lines. The two lines are as different as night and day. The only similarity is that Black is down two pawns in both variations; aside from that there are no similarities.
When White failed to get enough of an advantage with Bd3, Be2, or Bf1, I knew there was a gross error somewhere; White should be winning here. Then I challenged my original assumption: That the 8...Be7 line was "similar" to the 8...Rb8 line---a fatal assumption.Then the solution was obvious.
9.Bxc6ch! (of course in hindsight) Nxc6 10.Qxc6ch Bd7 (The first major difference between this and the Rb8 variation. In that variation, the check is met with 10...Nd7. In this position, this hangs the exchange 10...Nd7?? 11.Nxf7! Kxf7 12.Qd5ch/Qxa8+- so Black is forced to play the inferior 10...Bd7 (Perhaps you would like me analyze the position after 10...Qd7 11.Qxa8)
Here are the seven moves that it takes to cook 8...Be7: 1.Bxc6ch, 2.Qxc6ch, 3.Qa6 4.Qe2, 5.Nc3, 6.d3, 7.O-O The order depends on what responses Black makes. This position is +- Why? Because White has a four to one pawn majority on the Queenside, a protected passed pawn and Black has no compensation for either one.
No competent theoretician would bother to analyze the position from this point onward. If you wish to pursue this farce beyond this point, then you will get a grade of "F" for competence as a theoretician.
ArKheiN wrote on 02/05/09 at 14:15:02:
Sloughter, I accept your deal. Even if I didn't say that 8.Qf3 Be7 was my choice, I believe I can hold that against yours refutations. If I get a draw or if I win, I hope you will change your words about the 2 Knights and you won't use so easily the word "refutation" anymore.
I am ok to play 8..Be7 alone without Uruk, maybe he will just agree with my move, if he find better, he will do a parallel game/analysis.
Let's start now:
8.Qf3!? (really, I am myself interested about that move from White point of view, but it's impossible by now to tell if that wins.), 8..Be7 9.Bxc6+ Nxc6 10.Qxc6+ Bd7 and now it's your turn. If 11.Qc4 or 11.Qf3, I play 11..0-0.