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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #52 - 04/06/09 at 14:17:50
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I'm interested in this book. Can someone tell me, what L.Schandorff gives agains 1 d4 d4 2 c4 cd4 3 e4 e5 4 Nf3 ed4 5 Bc4 Nc6 6 0-0 Be6  ?
It's hard to get anything in this line.
  

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Reply #51 - 03/20/09 at 12:08:34
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Templare2 wrote on 02/20/09 at 14:44:37:
In the QGD i never played the Exchange Variation so that book ca be a good start. But i risk to be move ordered. I.e.

1. d4 d5  2. c4 e6  3.Nc3 Ng6  4. cxd5 exd5  5. Bg5 c6  6. Qc2 Be7   7. e3 0-0  8. Bd3 Nbd7  9. Nge2 Re8  10. 0-0

Now Schandorf  considers only 10.., Nf8. But what about the simple 10.., Ne4?

Or:  1. d4 d5  2. c4 e6  3.Nc3 Ng6  4. cxd5 exd5  5. Bg5 c6  6. Qc2 Be7   7. e3 0-0  8. Bd3 h6  9. Bh4  Ne4  10. Bxe7 Qxe7

With this set-up we have a new the central tension, so what is the plan for White? 


I can't answer this question without some research, but I have Schandorff's excellent book, and I think it's a bit of a mistake to look to it for absolutely all the answers.  A really complete repertoire book would be much larger than this.  He takes you most of the way, especially in the most critical lines, but you definitely have to do some work of your own, as here.

In another vein, I am not so sure about the enthusiasm for the Noteboom expressed above.  I haven't looked in any depth at the line given by Schandorff, but I don't think that Black's task is so very easy in the main lines of this system.
  

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Reply #50 - 03/20/09 at 07:04:02
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This is a very nice book.  The explanations are suitable for anyone from 1600 up.  It is a bit quirky the way he mixes "theory" sections with illustrated games.  But overall, it is very thorough, detailed and well written.

My only gripe with the book is a matter of taste.  I wish he had chosen the Bf4 variation against the QGD instead of the exchange.  He has played Blackburne QGD with reasonable results.  I would love to hear more from him on why he chose the exchange for the book.

His repertoire choice either forces you to allow the noteboom or play two different systems vs. the triangle system:  
1. d4 d5   2. c4 e6   3. Nc3 c6   4. e4 !?
1. d4 d5   2. c4 c6   3. Nf3 e6   4. Qc2 !?
 
If he had gone with the Bf4 QGD, white would not have to allow the noteboom or the nimzo-indian.  After 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 c6 4. Bg5, black probably has no better than to transpose into his Semi-slav repertoire.  And after 1. d4 Nf6  2. c4 e6  3. Nf3, white's play in the Petrosian QID might be more consistent with his repertoire theme of aiming for e4 than allowing the NID.
 
  
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Reply #49 - 03/07/09 at 16:52:20
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Is this book out?
  

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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #48 - 03/07/09 at 00:47:54
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Schandorffs Noteboom coverage does not lead to an advantage. It is not his fault, because there is a reason why White often tries to avoid the Noteboom.

Schandorff ignores the Mainline with 8.axb5 (1591 games in my database, Scoring 48% for White) which tells a lot and opts for the rarely played 8.Rb1 (42 games, 54%). The game he follows is a CC game:

Elwert,Hans Marcus (GER) - Binder,Gerhard (GER) [D31]
Germany ch qgA13 corr BdF, 1993

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Sf3 c6 4.Sc3 dxc4 5.a4 Lb4 6.e3 b5 7.Ld2 a5 8.Tb1 La6 9.Se5 Dc7 10.Dg4 g6 11.Df3 Ta7 12.Se4 f5 13.Lxb4 axb4 14.Sc5 b3 15.Le2 Lc8 16.0–0 Se7 17.Tfc1 Dd6 18.Df4 Sd7 19.axb5 cxb5 20.Scxd7 Lxd7 21.Dh6 Lc6 22.Ta1 Dc7 23.Dg7 Tf8 24.Dxh7 Txa1 25.Txa1 Kd8 26.Dg7 Tg8 27.Df6 c3 28.Ta7 Lb7 29.Dxe6 1–0 

There seem to beseveral different ways for black to get a good game, but theory is  to less developed to come to a real conclusion.

See as an example the line 8.Rb1 Bd7 advocated by Scherbakov on chesspub. Scherbakov and Schandorff both give
9.Ne5 Nf6 

Schandorff then deals with 10.Qf3 and 10.Be2, claiming a small advantage for White, while Scherbakov analyses 10.g3 and 10.g4, both ignoring the alternative moves.

So there is a lot to explore in the 8.Rb1 line, but in my opinion no reason to be overoptimistic as White. I still prefer a repertoire avoiding the noteboom. 

  
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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #47 - 02/22/09 at 04:54:34
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Thanks Tracke,

I was thinking perhaps he would use the 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 e6 4.Bg5 thingy aiming for a semi-slav.  So he does allow the noteboom!  How is the coverage of the noteboom?  I hear most repertoire books avoid it.  Just placed my order for the book... can't wait.
  
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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #46 - 02/21/09 at 15:33:15
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Eclectico wrote on 02/20/09 at 04:45:46:
What lines does he recommend vs. the Stonewall Dutch after 2...e6? 
Is it consistent with the transposition from the slav move order after 2...c6?   
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In Schandorff´s repertoire both move orders are consistent:
1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 c6 4Nf3 f5 or 1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 e6 4Nc3 f5 .
But he does not cover this in detail (just a short note about a Bf4 plan)
"because that´s basically outside the scope of this book".
That´s not 1d4 d5 but 1d4 f5 .

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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #45 - 02/21/09 at 15:22:44
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Doesn't Black lose a pawn in both these lines?

In your first line, after 10..Ne4, White can play 11.Bf4 when 11..f5 is met by 12.Nxd5! 

In your second line, after 8..h6 9.Bh4 Ne4 10.Bxe7 Qxe7, White just takes on e4.
  
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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #44 - 02/20/09 at 14:44:37
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In the QGD i never played the Exchange Variation so that book ca be a good start. But i risk to be move ordered. I.e.

1. d4 d5  2. c4 e6  3.Nc3 Ng6  4. cxd5 exd5  5. Bg5 c6  6. Qc2 Be7   7. e3 0-0  8. Bd3 Nbd7  9. Nge2 Re8  10. 0-0

Now Schandorf  considers only 10.., Nf8. But what about the simple 10.., Ne4?

Or:  1. d4 d5  2. c4 e6  3.Nc3 Ng6  4. cxd5 exd5  5. Bg5 c6  6. Qc2 Be7   7. e3 0-0  8. Bd3 h6  9. Bh4  Ne4  10. Bxe7 Qxe7

With this set-up we have a new the central tension, so what is the plan for White? 
  

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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #43 - 02/20/09 at 07:40:46
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Eclectico wrote on 02/20/09 at 04:45:46:
What lines does he recommend vs. the Stonewall Dutch after 2...e6?  Is it consistent with the transposition from the slav move order after 2...c6?  

Does anyone have any experience with the Amazon vendor:  The_Book_Depository?  http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1906552185/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=123....


Eclectico - I use Book Depository here in the UK all the time; better than amazon, in fact, although that's where I first heard of them.  I buy directly from their website now, it's slightly cheaper tham Amazon, naturally.
  
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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #42 - 02/20/09 at 04:45:46
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What lines does he recommend vs. the Stonewall Dutch after 2...e6?  Is it consistent with the transposition from the slav move order after 2...c6?   

Does anyone have any experience with the Amazon vendor:  The_Book_Depository?  http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1906552185/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=123....

  
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Reply #41 - 02/18/09 at 09:05:41
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The book can definitely be ordered on our site, shipping to all the world. Unfortunately it will not be available quickly in the bookstores in the US. Our coming books probably will be available quickly from Chess4Less, but not this one.

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Reply #40 - 02/18/09 at 06:02:30
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TonyRo wrote on 02/17/09 at 16:08:20:
When can we expect to see this book in the States? Thanks!  Grin

Presumably you could already order it on the quality chess webpage?
  
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Re: Playing the Queen's Gambit: A Grandmaster Guide
Reply #39 - 02/18/09 at 00:03:54
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Markovich wrote on 02/17/09 at 22:21:04:
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I definitely agree.  Grin

On a related note, is there a plan for a similar, aggressive 1. d4 repertoire book against everything but 1...d5? Avrukh's isn't quite my style.  Sad
  
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Reply #38 - 02/17/09 at 22:21:04
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