Interesting stuff which kind of confirms that this line is a bit iffy for Black.

Is 4.. nc6 still ok for black or has there been a flaw in that line.

Separate point- we're very lucky to have Stefan with us.......Special request for Tony K - can you get Stefan to do us a one off Kings Gambit special !

Well a-bit different It might be a try 

1.c4 b6 2.d4 e6 3.e4 Bb7 4.Bd3 f5 5.exf5 Bxg2 6.Qh5+ g6 7.fxg6
Bg7 8.gxh7+ Kf8 9.Bg5 Nf6 10.Qh4 Nc6 11.Ne2 ( 11.Nd2 Bxh1 12.Ne2
Kf7 transposes below ) Bxh1 ( 11...Nb4 12.Bg6 Bxh1 13.Nbc3
Bf3 14.Nf4 Nc6 15.Ne4 Bxe4 16.Bxe4 Nxd4 17.O-O-O c5 18.Nh5 Rxh7
19.Bxf6 Bxf6 20.Qxf6+ Qxf6 21.Nxf6 Rf7 22.Nxd7+ Rxd7 23.Bxa8
Ne2+ ) 12.Nd2 ( 12.Nbc3 e5 13.O-O-O Bf3 14.Re1 exd4 15.Nd5 Bxd5
16.cxd5 Ne5 17.Bf5 Nf3 18.Qf4 Nxe1 19.Kd2 Nxd5 20.Bxd7+ Nxf4
21.Bxd8 Nf3+ 0-1, Georgopoulos Steve - Mos Ali, Australia 1993)
( 12.Nf4 e5 13.Ng6+ Kf7 14.dxe5 ( 14.Nxe5+ Nxe5 15.dxe5 Qe7 16.Bxf6
Bxf6 17.Qxf6+ Qxf6 18.exf6 Rae8+ 19.Kd2 Be4 20.Nc3 Bxh7 21.Rg1
Bxd3 22.Kxd3 Reg8 -+ ) Rxh7 15.Qf4 ( 15.Qg3 d6 16.e6+ Kxe6 17.Nf4+
Kf7 18.Bg6+ Kg8 19.Bxh7+ Kxh7 20.Qh3+ Kg8 21.Qe6+ Kh7 =+}
22.Nd2 Nd4 23.Qh3+ Kg8 24.O-O-O Bc6 =+) Rh3 16.exf6 Bxf6 17.Be2
Kxg6 18.Qg4 Bxg5 ( 18...Rh8 19.Bxf6+ Kxf6 20.Nc3 Qf8 21.f3 =+ )
19.Qxh3 Qf6 20.Qxd7 Rf8 21.Bd3+ Kh5 22.Qh7+ Bh6 23.Be2+ Kh4 24.Nd2
( 24.f3 Re8 25.Nd2 Nd4 26.O-O-O Rxe2 -+)Qxf2+ 25.Kd1 Qg1+
26.Kc2 Nb4+ 27.Kb3 Qe3+ 28.Bd3 Nxd3 29.Rxh1 Qxd2 30.Qe4+ Rf4
31.Qe7+ Kh3 32.Qe6+ Rg4 33.Qxh6+ Qxh6 -+)Kf7 13.Nf4
( 13.Ng3 Nb4 14.Bb1 Bb7 15.Nh5 Rxh7 16.Bxh7 Qh8 17.Nxf6 Bxf6
18.Bxf6 Qxf6 19.Qh5+ Ke7 20.a3 Na6 21.Be4 Rh8 =)
( 13.f3 Nb4 14.Bb1 Nc6 15.Nf4 ( 15.Kf2 Ne7 16.Bc2 Nf5 17.Qh3
Bg2 18.Qxg2 Rxh7 19.Rg1 Qh8 20.Bf4 Rh5 21.Qg6+ Kf8 22.Bxc7 Ne8
23.Bxf5 Rxf5 =+)Ne7 16.Kf2 c6 17.Kg1 Nf5 18.Bxf5 exf5 19.Bxf6
Qxf6 20.Qh5+ Ke7 21.Ng6+ Kd6 22.Kxh1 Kc7 23.Nxh8 Rxh8 24.Rg1
Qxd4 25.Qxf5 Qxb2 26.h4 Rf8 27.Qd3 Be5 28.Kg2 Rh8 29.Kh3 Bf4
30.Nf1 Qf6 31.Rg4 Bd6 32.Rg6 Qe7 33.Ne3 Be5 34.f4 Rxh7 35.fxe5
Qxh4+ 36.Kg2 Qh2+ 37.Kf1 Qxe5 38.Ng4 Qa1+ 39.Kg2 Qxa2+ 40.Kg3
Rf7 41.Rf6 Rg7 42.Qc3 =) Nxd4 14.O-O-O Nf3 ( 14...Nf5 15.Bxf5
exf5 16.Rxh1 Rxh7 17.Qg3 Qe7 18.Qd3 Qe5 19.Nf3 Qe4 20.Qb3 b5
21.cxb5+ d5 22.Rd1 Qc4+ 23.Qxc4 dxc4 24.Bxf6 ( 24.Rd4 c3 25.bxc3
Ne4 26.Rd7+ Kg8 27.Rxc7 Nxc3 =+)Bxf6 25.Rd5 ( 25.Rd7+ Kg8
=+) Kg8 26.Rxf5 Rf8 =+) 15.Nxf3 Bxf3 16.Bg6+ Ke7 17.Nxe6
dxe6 18.Rxd8 Rhxd8 19.Qg3 Be2 20.Qxc7+ Rd7 21.Qg3 Rd4 22.Qa3+
Kd7 23.b3 Bf3 ( 23...a6 24.Qa4+ b5 25.Qa5 =+) 24.Qa4+ Bc6 25.Qb4
Nd5 26.Qa3 Nf6 27.Bxf6 ( 27.Qb2 Nxh7 -+) ( 27.Qb4 Rh8 28.f3
Rd8 29.Qa3 Ra8 =) Bxf6 28.c5 a5 29.cxb6 Rc8 -+


Thanks, AJ

I would be interested in what Kaissiber 33 (2008) has to say about this line. I've done abit of work on the whole hog 1.d4 e6 2 c4 b6 3 e4 Bb7 4 Bd3 f5 5 ef Bg2 6 Qh5 g6 7 fg Bg7 8 gh Kf8 if you could carry on from here abit as to what is the refutation? Thanks, AJ

1.e4 b6 2.d4 Bb7 3.Bd3 f5? is a forced loss as pointed out by the Dutch corr. player Guido den Broeder almost 30 years ago. His analysis is not that well-known, if somebody is interested I can look it up. After 3.c4 e6 4.Bd3 f5 his refutation is prevented (key square f5), though it remains suspect.
His analysis also can be used with colours reversed after 1.b4 e5 2.a3 (or 2.b5) d5 3.Bb2 Bd6 4.f4? exf4.

You are probably thinking of this line: 1.d4 e6 2.c4 b6 3.e4 Bb7 4.Bd3 and now Bauer says that black has 3 options:
4...Nc6 or 4...Bb4 => solid but passive
4...f5 => very wild, and Bauer's preference (even though he is not sure who ends up better out of the complications)

He analyses it in game 44 in the book (Burnett - Kraai, 2004)

Btw, I prefer this move order: 1.d4 b6 2.c4 Bb7 but it gives white some other options and black doesn't have Bb4 at his disposal.

I'm tilting at windmills a little here in asking for help with little info to provide...

Almost 15 years ago, I was introduced to the Whole Hog Variation of the Owen in Ireland.  I don't remember a great deal about it.  White opened with e4,d4,c4,Bd3 and Black played an early ...f5, which led to all kinds of chaos.  White gets a tumultuous kingside attack going, wins tons of material and exposes the Black king, but I seem to remember thinking that we couldn't find a win and that once the dust settled, Black was actually better.  Does this ring any bells?  Does anything like this appear in Christian Bauer's book?  Thanks (and apologies) in advance...