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Re: what about Nf3 and g3
Reply #3 - 01/08/09 at 02:19:11
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Have you already decided how to meet 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 ? If 4...b6 then the QID makes more sense; if 4...d5 then 3.Nf3 d5 and 4...Bb4. Of course there is also 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5.
  

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Re: what about Nf3 and g3
Reply #2 - 01/07/09 at 22:32:53
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TN Thank you for such a long and thorough reply!!!  I was thinking of the Nimzo as an addition to the semi slav....  SO thanks for that suggestion.
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Re: what about Nf3 and g3
Reply #1 - 01/07/09 at 20:22:27
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Your choices (excluding QID and the transpositional 3...d5) after 3.Nf3 are:

Bogo-Indian: Solid and quite easy to play/learn, but you have to be patient in order to win against weaker players with it.

Blumenfeld Gambit: 3...c5 4.d5 b5. As far as I know, it remains unrefuted although 5.Bg5 is slightly more comfortable for White. 

Tango: 3...Nc6. I wouldn't recommend it as if you wanted to play the Tango, 2...Nc6 seems a more practical move order.

I wouldn't call the Queen's Indian Defence 'passive'. Although in the majority of variations Black foregoes staking a claim in the centre for a few moves, Black's active/solid piece play compensates. The resulting positions from the QID are usually dynamically balanced, and offer good chances for either side to win against an equal opponent in view of the early imbalances created.

If you are worried about the QID being too drawish, then don't worry about it. Just avoid the 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4 6.Bd2 Be7 variation and keep the tension in the centre and you should be fine.

If you want to avoid the Catalan after 3.g3, you are compelled to learn either the Bogo-Indian (3...Bb4) or the Fianchetto variation of the Benoni (3...c5). 

I don't know a huge amount about the Ragozin or Vienna, but if you are happy with the QID or BID, then you don't have to learn them as Black.

If you do decide to play 3...d5, then I would recommend playing the Semi-Slav with 4.Nc3 c6. Just make sure you have a good antidote to the Catalan (4...Be7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.0-0 dc4 would be my recommendation), 4.Bg5 and 4.e3 (I recommend 4...c5).

Edit: BID stands for 'Bogo-Indian'.
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what about Nf3 and g3
01/07/09 at 19:55:52
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Hi all,
So I hear the Nimzo is a good active defence!!!  However the "problem" seems to be what to play vs Nf3 or G3 instead of Nc3.  One can play Benoni but modern defence looks formidable and QID seems to passive.  SO I was thinking of Ragozin or Vienna and no clue what to play vs g3 though?  What do people think of Ragozin or Vienna and any ideas vs g3???   
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