Poll
Poll closed Question: Which continuation is the best against the Benko/Volga
bars   pie
*** This poll has now closed ***


Accepted with bxa6 and e4+g3    
  8 (7.9%)
Accepted with bxa6 and e4+h3    
  5 (5.0%)
Accepted with bxa6 and Nf3+Nd2    
  3 (3.0%)
Accepted with bxa6 and f4    
  2 (2.0%)
Accepted with bxa6 and g3    
  20 (19.8%)
Accepted - The Zaitsev (5.Nc3)    
  5 (5.0%)
Accepted - The Dlugy (5.f3)    
  10 (9.9%)
Accepted with 5. b6    
  28 (27.7%)
Other accepted    
  4 (4.0%)
Refused    
  16 (15.8%)




Total votes: 101
« Created by: thibdb13 on: 01/22/09 at 19:49:32 »
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 [3] 
Topic Tools
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga? (Read 34120 times)
Ender
Senior Member
****
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 408
Joined: 05/22/06
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #11 - 01/27/09 at 18:37:14
Post Tools
Holbox wrote on 01/27/09 at 18:27:57:
What's going on with 3...b5 4.cb a6 5.ba Ba6 6.Nc3 (d6,g6) 7.f4? As recomended by Keene's 1.d4 repertoire book.


Thx


What's the tittle?
  

2200. Amateur!
Back to top
ICQ  
IP Logged
 
Holbox
Senior Member
****
Offline


Saigón Café

Posts: 369
Joined: 02/08/05
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #10 - 01/27/09 at 18:27:57
Post Tools
What's going on with 3...b5 4.cb a6 5.ba Ba6 6.Nc3 (d6,g6) 7.f4? As recomended by Keene's 1.d4 repertoire book.


Thx
  

"Ladran, luego cabalgamos", NN
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
thibdb13
God Member
*****
Offline


Tal was the best

Posts: 974
Location: Mechelen
Joined: 01/25/07
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #9 - 01/27/09 at 09:11:35
Post Tools
Girkassa wrote on 01/26/09 at 23:08:36:
With 4.Nf3 I have finally found a line in which I score about 50% against the Benko. For some reason, the Benko has for a long time been the opening that I score miserably against no matter what line I played. I voted for accepted with e4 and g3 though, as I believe it's objectively better. This is one of the extremely rare cases where I play a move when I believe there's another objectively stronger one - I can't really explain why I always end up playing badly in the other lines.

Maybe under too much pressure on the Q-side?
  

Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Girkassa
Senior Member
****
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 433
Joined: 04/07/07
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #8 - 01/26/09 at 23:08:36
Post Tools
With 4.Nf3 I have finally found a line in which I score about 50% against the Benko. For some reason, the Benko has for a long time been the opening that I score miserably against no matter what line I played. I voted for accepted with e4 and g3 though, as I believe it's objectively better. This is one of the extremely rare cases where I play a move when I believe there's another objectively stronger one - I can't really explain why I always end up playing badly in the other lines.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
thibdb13
God Member
*****
Offline


Tal was the best

Posts: 974
Location: Mechelen
Joined: 01/25/07
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #7 - 01/26/09 at 07:47:24
Post Tools
Markovich wrote on 01/23/09 at 15:54:38:
thibdb13 wrote on 01/22/09 at 19:51:41:
Personally I prefered the Dlugy variation but since the last DW (black plays c4), I am not so confident any more...


Concerning this variation, one solution to the vaunted queen sac might be to play straight into it and be well prepared.  I suspect that with enough prior study, White could make a pretty good game of it.

I am not concerned about the queen sac: it does not happen so often (I never played against it) and white has some ways to survive it.
The variation that causes me the most problems is: 1.d4-Nf6 2.c4-c5 3.d5-b5 4.cb5-a6 5.f3-ab5 6.e4-c4. There is an article about it in the DW book about the Benoni and the Benko.
  

Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Glenn Snow
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 1720
Location: Franklin
Joined: 09/27/03
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #6 - 01/23/09 at 21:43:40
Post Tools
MNb wrote on 01/23/09 at 00:53:26:
I prefer 4.Nf3 and only after ...g6 Zaitsev's 5.cxb5 a6 6.Nc3. But I might very well change opinions within a few years.


I like the idea of playing 4.Nf3 and then if 4...g6 5.cxb5 a6, then 6.b6 although I haven't looked at it in awhile.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Markovich
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 6099
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Joined: 09/17/04
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #5 - 01/23/09 at 15:54:38
Post Tools
thibdb13 wrote on 01/22/09 at 19:51:41:
Personally I prefered the Dlugy variation but since the last DW (black plays c4), I am not so confident any more...


Concerning this variation, one solution to the vaunted queen sac might be to play straight into it and be well prepared.  I suspect that with enough prior study, White could make a pretty good game of it.
  

The Great Oz has spoken!
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Kowl
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 63
Joined: 10/28/08
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #4 - 01/23/09 at 11:16:37
Post Tools
i play the accpeted with b6. i dont think it's the 'best' line but the ideas are clear and it's simple enough to play.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10778
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #3 - 01/23/09 at 00:53:26
Post Tools
I prefer 4.Nf3 and only after ...g6 Zaitsev's 5.cxb5 a6 6.Nc3. But I might very well change opinions within a few years.
  

The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Stigma
God Member
*****
Offline


There is a crack in everything.

Posts: 3277
Joined: 11/07/06
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #2 - 01/22/09 at 22:44:28
Post Tools
Tough question. I play the old accepted main line (but without the unnecessary h3) when I want to "play for two results". Black has depressingly few winning chanses against this if White knows what he's doing. But the fianchetto with Rb1 might be even stronger.

Benko players are supposed to love the gambit positions but when I tried it out I was least comfortable against precisely the two main lines I mentioned. I've also found 5.e3 effective against some "Benko automatons", but I won't bet that it gives White anything objectively.
  

Improvement begins at the edge of your comfort zone. -Jonathan Rowson
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
thibdb13
God Member
*****
Offline


Tal was the best

Posts: 974
Location: Mechelen
Joined: 01/25/07
Gender: Male
Re: What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
Reply #1 - 01/22/09 at 19:51:41
Post Tools
Personally I prefered the Dlugy variation but since the last DW (black plays c4), I am not so confident any more...
  

Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
thibdb13
God Member
*****
Offline


Tal was the best

Posts: 974
Location: Mechelen
Joined: 01/25/07
Gender: Male
What is the best way to meet the Benko/Volga?
01/22/09 at 19:49:32
Post Tools
Just to know what is the general opinion...
It is a pity there are only 10 possible answers in these polls  Cry
  

Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 [3] 
Topic Tools
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo