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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #79 - 07/04/11 at 04:17:30
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Clearly he has improved over the last 2 years, FIDE ratings should generally not be taken very seriously, unless it's a high ranked player that plays most of his games FIDE rated, which it seems few Americans (and Sweds!) do.

Edit: It seems I couldn't give the picture that way, so I cba to change it, just click the link yourself, and it's quite obvious he's had an improving streak since 2008.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #78 - 07/03/11 at 18:40:30
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This is beginning to feel like a personal complaint against Mr. Hortillosa.

I know him and respect him. His chess has improved even if his rating has dropped back down. There are many reasons for ratings to decline over time.

Is there something in his book's recommendations that are fundamentally wrong?

Note: edited to remove a redundant word.
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #77 - 07/03/11 at 15:58:57
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He is not improving, he did recover a lottle, he did not even reached his peak from 199x

  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #76 - 06/28/11 at 20:34:49
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AoxomoxoA wrote on 06/28/11 at 08:11:55:
If this is not a desaster than what is a desaster??
Losing more than 100 Elo-Ponts each year:

Period      Fide-RTING      GMS
May 2011       1974       0
Mar 2011       1974       3
Jan 2011       1987       0
Nov 2010       1987       0
Sep 2010       1987       0
Jul 2010       1987       9
May 2010       2027       9
Mar 2010       2069       6
Jan 2010       2068       5
Nov 2009       2087       0
Sep 2009       2087       11
Jul 2009       2115       18
Apr 2009       2143       4
Jan 2009       2141       7
Oct 2008       2199       9


In all fairness his USCF rating, which is probably based on more games and thus more accurate, tells a different story (search for Hortillosa here http://main.uschess.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,181/)

Up to and including 2008 he would frequently drop down to his floor (1900). After his great New England Masters tournament rated in October 2008 (+62 to 1962 USCF) he has never touched his floor again, been above 2000 several times, and is currently at 2030 USCF.

So actually I am going to change my mind and read this as a slight, but evident improvement!

But of course none of that shows up in the FIDE ratings, since his first FIDE-rated tournament was "too good" and he couldn't keep up that level (2199).
  

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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #75 - 06/28/11 at 19:19:30
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Blue Flaneur wrote on 06/28/11 at 18:37:51:
MNb wrote on 06/28/11 at 17:02:22:
Blue Flaneur wrote on 06/28/11 at 16:31:30:
it's "disaster" not "desastre."

I admit the author is a complete putz but so are a lot of other authors like pandolfini, heisman, aagaard, etc. but don't attack it,

An author is a him or a her, not an it. Don't point at other peoples mistakes if you make them yourself.
I don't see how providing data can be seen as an attack on an author. Another question is of these data are relevant; I would say yes.


"it" as in the book. as in don't attack the book because it's been attacked enough. is it really necessary to continue this thread?

and like I said it's clear we can all make our own opinions. this guy is a 2000 writing a book about chess instruction. If you don't know that's a joke already then it's clear you deserve to get jipped.


I agree. It seems a bit ridiculous for a <2000 author to be explaining to others how to reach a distinguishing standard in chess when he can't even do it himself.  Grin
 
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #74 - 06/28/11 at 18:37:51
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MNb wrote on 06/28/11 at 17:02:22:
Blue Flaneur wrote on 06/28/11 at 16:31:30:
it's "disaster" not "desastre."

I admit the author is a complete putz but so are a lot of other authors like pandolfini, heisman, aagaard, etc. but don't attack it,

An author is a him or a her, not an it. Don't point at other peoples mistakes if you make them yourself.
I don't see how providing data can be seen as an attack on an author. Another question is of these data are relevant; I would say yes.


"it" as in the book. as in don't attack the book because it's been attacked enough. is it really necessary to continue this thread?

and like I said it's clear we can all make our own opinions. this guy is a 2000 writing a book about chess instruction. If you don't know that's a joke already then it's clear you deserve to get jipped.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #73 - 06/28/11 at 18:02:16
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ErictheRed wrote on 06/28/11 at 17:09:20:
But resurrecting a thread that's been dead for 10 months just to point it out again seems strange.


I suspect thats the real point. I would lock this thread at this point tbh.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #72 - 06/28/11 at 17:46:39
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British readers may be aware that a rather hostile review has appeared in the most recent Kingpin. The hostility isn't directed at the quality of the analysis as much as the quality of the English and the lack of punctuation.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #71 - 06/28/11 at 17:09:20
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Well Aagaard made GM, so I wouldn't call him a putz.  I do think that showing the author's rating decline is a valid way of questioning the effectiveness of his methods (which I haven't seen).  But resurrecting a thread that's been dead for 10 months just to point it out again seems strange.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #70 - 06/28/11 at 17:02:22
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Blue Flaneur wrote on 06/28/11 at 16:31:30:
it's "disaster" not "desastre."

I admit the author is a complete putz but so are a lot of other authors like pandolfini, heisman, aagaard, etc. but don't attack it,

An author is a him or a her, not an it. Don't point at other peoples mistakes if you make them yourself.
I don't see how providing data can be seen as an attack on an author. Another question is of these data are relevant; I would say yes.
  

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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #69 - 06/28/11 at 16:31:30
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it's "disaster" not "desastre."

I admit the author is a complete putz but so are a lot of other authors like pandolfini, heisman, aagaard, etc. but don't attack it, instead focus on books by credible authors. no need to attack other people here. we're all capable of formulating our own opinions.
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #68 - 06/28/11 at 08:11:55
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If this is not a desaster than what is a desaster??
Losing more than 100 Elo-Ponts each year:

Period      Fide-RTING      GMS
May 2011       1974       0
Mar 2011       1974       3
Jan 2011       1987       0
Nov 2010       1987       0
Sep 2010       1987       0
Jul 2010       1987       9
May 2010       2027       9
Mar 2010       2069       6
Jan 2010       2068       5
Nov 2009       2087       0
Sep 2009       2087       11
Jul 2009       2115       18
Apr 2009       2143       4
Jan 2009       2141       7
Oct 2008       2199       9
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #67 - 09/29/10 at 02:08:06
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Chess Improvement is hard, at any age...

His recent results aren't a "disaster", merely in line with his previous stable USCF rating for several years. But not evidence that "the System" leads to sustained improvement.

Out of curiosity I took a look at Hortillosa's 2008-2010 games available in TWIC. He's a very dangerous attacker with the initiative, and a capable endgame player. Definitely some skills to build on!

Where he seems to falter often is in too willingly accepting holes in his pawn structure, not taking enough care of his own king safety, and sometimes playing too slowly/passively. All these are essentially strategic errors that will lead to tactical opportunities for the opponent sooner or later.

I don't know how close the book is to the original Chessville articles, but I think the focus there on how to think very carefully to spot tactics and avoid blunders is unhelpful when trying to reach expert or master level. I too give such advice to weaker players all the time, but on master level tactics get so intertwined with strategy that you have to be able to spot the tactics qiuckly and several moves in advance, not just at the last opportunity. This automatic "tactical eye" is best developed by solving tactical problems again and again until the patterns are recognized instantly (Here I disagree with Hortillosa: He claimed on Chessville that solving exercises mainly trains us to solve tactics once we know there's a solution, and not to recognize when there are tactics to be found).
  

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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #66 - 09/28/10 at 21:53:53
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Hortillosa, Andres D (USA)
A desaster!
Period Fide-RTING GMS
Sep 2010       1987 0
Jul 2010 1987 9
May 2010 2027 9
Mar 2010 2069 6
Jan 2010 2068 5
Nov 2009 2086 0
Sep 2009 2086 11
Jul 2009 2114 18
Apr 2009 2143 4
Jan 2009 2141 7
Oct 2008 2199 9
  
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Re: Improve your Chess at Any Age - Andres Hortillosa
Reply #65 - 03/16/10 at 13:44:46
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I thought readers of this thread might be interested in reading Arne Moll's thoughtful review at

http://www.chessvibes.com/reviews/review-improve-your-chess-at-any-age/

I especially like his concluding remarks.

Andres D. Hortillosa
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