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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #6 - 02/24/09 at 15:08:32
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star1 wrote on 02/23/09 at 08:30:58:

Radjabov-Gashimov, 2008 proves indeed that there is a game.Thank you for directing me to this game.

It would be nice if GM Emms made comments on this. I am inclined to think that there is maybe a new trend here. If that case is Yes, then we are discoverer!

I seem to recall that John Emms has just discussed this very game Radjabov-Gashimov in his January 2009 update!?
  
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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #5 - 02/24/09 at 00:37:58
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I found too the same games in my DB. There is that doubleton of V.Babula that looks odd. It must be a transcript error. Maybe at the end of the day someone copy/paste or misread names. Infinitum speculations.

It is deligthful the way Shirazy handle the piece sac. It seem there is no way to hold it as the black majesty on the a-file would then be surrounded.

Personally, before I put that variation to use, there is one IF to be answered : What about [1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 Ne4 7. Qc2 Qa5 8.Bg2 Nxc3 9. O-O Nxe2+ 
netting a central pawn with tempo? Then those Kramnik's bishops (Bg2 and Be3 toward a1-h8) give me an answer I am prepare to deliberate for an outing. In this way it seems I ask you a question for which I know the answer; On the contrary, I would gladly read advices and later share my sucess or failure; Trust but Verify (Russian saying).

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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #4 - 02/23/09 at 18:37:30
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I actually have 4 games in my database, the previously mentioned one, then the first game in the variation I can find + the weird double Babula game(s).

Shirazi,K (2420) - Zuckerman,B (2460) [E20]
New York op2 New York, 1990

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Ne4 7.Qc2 Qa5 8.Bg2 Nxc3 9.0-0 Na4 10.a3 Be7 11.Nb5 Nc5 12.b4 Qa4 13.Qb1 Nba6 14.Be3 Qb3 15.bxc5 Qxc4 16.Nd6+ Bxd6 17.cxd6 Qxe2 18.Rc1 0-0 19.Ra2 Qh5 20.Rac2 Qg6 21.Qb5 h6 22.h4 Qf5 23.Qxf5 exf5 24.f4 Re8 25.Kf2 g6 26.Bd4 Kf8 27.h5 gxh5 28.Bf3 h4 29.gxh4 f6 30.h5 Kf7 31.Bd5+ Kg7 32.Rg1+ 1-0

Babula,V (2594) - Laznicka,V (2429) [E20]
ch-CZE Karlovy Vary CZE (1), 17.02.2004

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 cxd4 6.Nxd4 Ne4 7.Qc2 Qa5 8.Bg2 Nxc3 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Be3 0-0 11.bxc3 Bxc3 12.Nb3 Qe5 13.Rac1 Bb4 14.c5 b6 15.Rfd1 Ba3 16.Rb1 Bb7 17.Nd2 Qc7 18.cxb6 axb6 19.Bxb6 Qc8 20.Nc4 Be7 21.Nd6 Bxd6 22.Rxd6 Nd4 23.Qd2 Bxg2 24.Bxd4 Bd5 25.Rxd5 exd5 26.Bxg7 Kxg7 27.Qg5+ Kh8 28.Qf6+ Kg8 ½-½

Stocek,J (2552) - Babula,V (2594) [E20]
ch-CZE Karlovy Vary CZE (2), 18.02.2004

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 cxd4 6.Nxd4 Ne4 7.Qc2 Qa5 8.Bg2 Nxc3 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Be3 0-0 11.bxc3 Bxc3 12.Nb3 Qe5 13.Rac1 Bb4 14.c5 b6 15.Rfd1 Ba3 16.Rb1 Bb7 17.Nd2 Qc7 18.cxb6 axb6 19.Bxb6 Qc8 20.Nc4 Be7 21.Nd6 Bxd6 22.Rxd6 Nd4 23.Qd2 Bxg2 24.Bxd4 Bd5 25.Rxd5 exd5 26.Bxg7 Kxg7 27.Qg5+ Kh8 28.Qf6+ Kg8 ½-½
  
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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #3 - 02/23/09 at 08:30:58
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I am happy someone read me.  My analysis contains some major deficiencies. In fact, contrary to what I believe, white must accept doubled c pawns. The line with a3 and b4 is simply impossible (those pawns moves being without goal). Fortunately, the game remains interesting. For one thing, Fritz sees compensations (mostly on the d file and square d6), as far as let it worked. 

Radjabov-Gashimov, 2008 proves indeed that there is a game.Thank you for directing me to this game.

It would be nice if GM Emms made comments on this. I am inclined to think that there is maybe a new trend here. If that case is Yes, then we are discoverer!

So long, 

  
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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #2 - 02/23/09 at 07:20:39
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Is it just me (or some mistake in my database) or does anyone else have two identical games by Balbua (one as white and one as blacK) from subsequent rounds of the same event in their databases?
  
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Re: Nimzo gambit in (E20)
Reply #1 - 02/23/09 at 05:04:52
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Seems like most players with black use 9...Nc6 instead of hoarding material, leading to draws (Radjabov-Gashimov Elista 2008, for example). 

The line looks sharp to me, but I have no experience with it (yet!).
  
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Nimzo gambit in (E20)
02/22/09 at 18:37:52
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Hello,

     I have come across a interesting gambit.
    
     In the g3 Nimzo (E20): 
     1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 c5 5.g3 cxd4 6.Nxd4 Ne4 7.Qc2 
      
     ( The start of the gambit; 7.Qd3 is the main move so as to have the queen ready in a) 7....Qa5 8.Nb3 Qf5 (X f2) 9.Qe3; but it is exposed to b) 7...Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Nc5; where all attention is. White player having a choice of 4 queen moves.)
 
     7....Qa5 ( Indeed, it does not make sense any more to play 7....Bxc3+) 8.Bg2 Nxc3 9.0-0 : 

     So black is a piece up. 
     A) Unravelling with 9....Na4 10.a3 Be7 11.b4 suits white, as black, fighting to keep the piece will suffer. 
     B) What strikes me is that 9....Nxe2+ 10.Qxe2 looks fair compensation, white having good play on both colors. Of course, it is a matter of taste.   
     C) After 9....0-0 (10.bxc3 (?), believe me, is a big mistake as the double 'c' pawns on a semi-open file won't survive), 10.a3 Be7 11.b4 Nxe2+ 12.Qxe2 Q move 13.Bb2 etc is my suggestion.
     D) 9....Nxa2 (?!) is also what white wants.

     If A) can be tolerate, it remains to see if the one pawn less for white in the twin B) and C) offers enough.

     It has been played. Will it become a thread? Any experiences?

Thank you,

 

  
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