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Poll closed Question: Who will win Linares?
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Anand    
  4 (23.5%)
Ivanchuk    
  0 (0.0%)
Carlsen    
  3 (17.6%)
Radjabov    
  0 (0.0%)
Aronian    
  1 (5.9%)
Wang Yue    
  0 (0.0%)
Grischuk    
  9 (52.9%)
Dominguez    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 17
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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
Reply #6 - 03/01/09 at 02:48:42
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Willempie wrote on 03/01/09 at 00:01:46:
Not the first time Carlsen screws up known endings...


And not for the first time against Aronian. 3 years ago, Carlsen lost this rook endgame to Lev: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1437592
  
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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
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Not the first time Carlsen screws up known endings...
  
If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
Reply #4 - 02/28/09 at 23:36:35
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In Round 8, Aronian managed to defeat Carlsen from a theoretically drawn ending:

[Event "ICC 120 30 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2009.02.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "*GM_Carlsen"]
[Black "*GM_Aronian"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D45"]
[WhiteElo "2776"]
[BlackElo "2750"]
[PlyCount "186"]
[EventDate "2009.??.??"]
[TimeControl "7200+30"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 h6 8. Bd2
dxc4 9. Bxc4 b5 10. Be2 Bb7 11. e4 Be7 12. g5 hxg5 13. Nxg5 b4 14. Na4 c5 15.
Nxc5 Nxc5 16. dxc5 Rc8 17. Qa4+ Bc6 18. Bb5 Bxb5 19. Qxb5+ Qd7 20. Qxd7+ Nxd7
21. Ke2 Rh4 22. Rac1 Rxc5 23. Rxc5 Bxc5 24. f4 e5 25. h3 exf4 26. Nf3 Rh6 27.
Bxf4 Re6 28. Nd2 Bd4 29. Rb1 Ra6 30. a3 bxa3 31. bxa3 Rxa3 32. Nc4 Ra2+ 33. Kd3
Bf2 34. Bd6 Nb6 35. Bb4 Nxc4 36. Kxc4 Bb6 37. Kd5 Rg2 38. Rb3 Rg5+ 39. e5 Bc7
40. Bd6 Bxd6 41. Kxd6 Rg6+ 42. Kd5 Rb6 43. Rc3 Kd7 44. Rf3 Ke7 45. Rc3 Rb7 46.
Rc6 g6 47. Ra6 Kf8 48. Ke4 Kg7 49. Kf4 Re7 50. Ra5 Kh6 51. Kg4 a6 52. Rxa6 Rxe5
53. Rb6 Re3 54. Ra6 f5+ 55. Kh4 Re4+ 56. Kg3 Kg5 57. Ra3 Re2 58. Kf3 Rh2 59.
Kg3 Rb2 60. Ra8 Rb3+ 61. Kg2 Kf4 62. Ra4+ Ke3 63. h4 Rb6 64. Kg3 Rd6 65. Rf4
Rd1 66. Rf3+ Ke4 67. Rf4+ Ke5 68. Ra4 f4+ 69. Kg2 Rd2+ 70. Kf3 Rd3+ 71. Kg2
Rg3+ 72. Kh2 Kf5 73. Ra6 Re3 74. Ra5+ Re5 75. Ra2 Kg4 76. Rg2+ Kh5 77. Kh3 Ra5
78. Rg1 Ra3+ 79. Kh2 Ra6 80. Kh3 Ra5 81. Rg2 Rc5 82. Rg1 f3 83. Kg3 Rf5 84. Rf1
f2 85. Kh3 Rf3+ 86. Kg2 Kg4 87. h5 Rg3+ 88. Kh2 Kf3 89. Ra1 Rg2+ 90. Kh1 Rg5
91. Ra3+ Kf4 92. Ra4+ Kg3 93. Ra3+ Kh4 {Black wins} 0-1

84.Rf1?? is a blunder; 84.Kf2 would have held the draw. If Black tries 84...Rf6 to force White into zugzwang, then 85.Rh1 Kg4 86.h5! draws.
  
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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
Reply #3 - 02/27/09 at 04:34:13
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Hello:

To answer the original question, maybe it's Gambit's thread, and not Kamsky-Topalov, that has kept us from a Linares thread? Fourteen pages!!

Ivanchuk beat Aronin today and offered a draw yesterday in a winning position I read. Supposedly a sportsmanship thingy - in mutual time scramble he knocked over pieces a few times, Dominguez put them back on his own time, so after time control Ivanchuk offered a draw.

One sees very interesting and nice stories about Ivanchuk. I hope he wins it.

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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
Reply #2 - 02/26/09 at 17:44:06
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Here's kind of a similar game:

Piket-Golubev [E83]
Bundesliga 0203 Germany (2.2), 20.10.2002
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 0–0 6.Be3 a6 7.Qd2 Nc6 8.Nge2 Re8 9.Rc1 Bd7 10.b3 e6 11.h3 Rb8 

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12.d5 exd5 13.cxd5 Ne7 14.Bf4 Rc8 15.g4 c6 16.dxc6 Bxc6 17.Qxd6 Qa5 18.b4 Qa3 19.b5 Qa5 20.bxc6 Nxc6 21.Qd2 Nb4 22.Bd6 Rcd8 23.a3 Qxa3 24.e5 Nxg4 25.hxg4 Bxe5 26.Kf2 Rxd6 27.Qh6 Nd3+ 28.Kg2 Nxc1 29.Ne4 Nxe2 30.Bxe2 Qa2 31.Qxh7+ Kf8 32.Re1 Rd1 33.Rxd1 Qxe2+ 34.Nf2 Bg7 35.Rd7 Qb5 36.Rc7 Qb6 37.Rc2 Qb1 38.Rc7 Qb2 39.Qh4 Kg8 40.g5 Bd4 0–1

See Piket-Golubev, BL 2002/3, annotated by Max Notkin (CBV)

The annotated game might help shed some light on the opening in Anand-Grischuk.

If you subscribe to the King's Indian section at ChessPublishing, you might also want to take a look at the Nov '02 update

With 16 min left to make his next 19 moves, Grischuk seems to be developing a touch of zeitnot.
  
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Re: What, No Linares Thread?
Reply #1 - 02/26/09 at 17:09:18
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Does make you wonder if Kramnik was sat watching that wishing he'd chosen Qc2 and g4 instead of the Meran. Surely Anand can't have planned to play like that vs Kramnik?

Incidentally does anyone have a clue what on earth is going on in Anand - Grischuk? They seem to be using up huge amounts of time and producing some profoundly obscure moves Smiley
  
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What, No Linares Thread?
02/25/09 at 19:56:52
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In the sixth round and no thread!  Is Topalov-Kamsky that big a distraction?

After 5 rounds:
Aronian, Grischuk       3.5
Anand                        3
Carlsen, Ivanchuk       2.5
Dominguez                 2
Radjabov, Wang Yue   1.5

Carlsen looks poised to defeat Anand today:

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After 51...Nc4

Grischuk beat Aronian; Ivanchuk-Dominguez and Wang Yue-Radjabov both drawn.

New standing will likely be:

After 6 rounds:
Grischuk                    4.5
Aronian, Carlsen         3.5
Anand, Ivanchuk         3
Dominguez                 2.5
Radjabov, Wang Yue   2
  
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