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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #290 - 09/11/10 at 09:16:34
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MyDisplayedName wrote on 09/11/10 at 08:13:06:
Marin's two volumes again postponed. Now "October". It has been "April", then "June", "July", "August", "September", ... 

So Marin has found some difficulties in certain lines, treatening the entire repertoar? This is my interpretation. He did promise 1.c4 and 2.g3 irrespective of what Black plays. Can he deliever?

I am a big fan of M.Marin's stuff. Love e.g., "Legends". Love his annotations, generally speaking. So, when it was announced that he will release an "improved" Kosten, I was very happy indeed. Actually, I switched from 1.d4 to 1.c4 some months before I discovered this. What a coincidence!

Now, I must confess: I don't see a reason to spend all this money on 3 volumes, when his lines clearly don't promise more than plain equality. Yeas, maybe a very strong statement, but ... really...  If these positions at least were unclear, complicated as in the KID, it would be OK. But just look at the (very popular) Keres defence: I don't see any advantage at all for white in some of these lines. And other positions have been critisized in this forum. 

Surely, I am not strong enough a player to be giving the final judgement of this work, but my feeling is that you are not worse off with Kosten + some independent thinking. 

Am I alone here, having this "wasted money" feeling? I am actually considering switching back to 1.d4 (Avrukh). Can someone tell me why I should have faith in 1.c4 2.g3? 
  


The aim of the English is not to gain the advantage out of the opening, but to reach positions which suit White and don't suit Black. 

In this respect, Marin's repertoire has definitely succeeded, as evidenced by his excellent results in practice. 

If you want a repertoire that gives White a += advantage or better in every variation, you should consult Carlsen or Kasparov. 
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #289 - 09/11/10 at 08:13:06
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Marin's two volumes again postponed. Now "October". It has been "April", then "June", "July", "August", "September", ... 

So Marin has found some difficulties in certain lines, treatening the entire repertoar? This is my interpretation. He did promise 1.c4 and 2.g3 irrespective of what Black plays. Can he deliever?

I am a big fan of M.Marin's stuff. Love e.g., "Legends". Love his annotations, generally speaking. So, when it was announced that he will release an "improved" Kosten, I was very happy indeed. Actually, I switched from 1.d4 to 1.c4 some months before I discovered this. What a coincidence!

Now, I must confess: I don't see a reason to spend all this money on 3 volumes, when his lines clearly don't promise more than plain equality. Yeas, maybe a very strong statement, but ... really...  If these positions at least were unclear, complicated as in the KID, it would be OK. But just look at the (very popular) Keres defence: I don't see any advantage at all for white in some of these lines. And other positions have been critisized in this forum. 

Surely, I am not strong enough a player to be giving the final judgement of this work, but my feeling is that you are not worse off with Kosten + some independent thinking. 

Am I alone here, having this "wasted money" feeling? I am actually considering switching back to 1.d4 (Avrukh). Can someone tell me why I should have faith in 1.c4 2.g3? 

 
 

 



  
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #288 - 09/11/10 at 07:19:27
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Apparently Müller: Die Englische Partie, 1928, is missing.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #287 - 09/11/10 at 07:09:29
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Thanks. It's good to see that Marin has used a lot of relevant sources for this book which he didn't do for his two 1 e4 e5 books.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #286 - 09/11/10 at 06:45:04
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  • Bagirov's 'Angliiskoe Nachalo'
  • Botvinnik's 'Analiticheskie i kriticheskie rabotii 1-4'
  • Marin's 'Reggio Emelia 2007/8'
  • Hansen's 'The Gambit Guide to the English Opening: 1...e5'
  • Karpov's 'How to play the English Opening in Chess'
  • Kosten's 'The Dynamic English'
  • Kotronias's 'Beating the Flank Openings'
  • Palliser/Kosten/Vigus's 'Dangerous Weapons: Flank Openings'
  • Pritchett's 'Play the English'
  • Raetsky/Chetverik's 'English ...e5'
  • Watson's 'Mastering the Chess Openings: Volume 3'
  • Chess Extrapress
  • Chess Informant
  • NIC Yearbooks
  • Schaknytt
  • 64
  • ChessPublishing.com
  • Mega Database 2009


I assure you that the book is magnificent, and I'm looking forward to the sequels.  Smiley
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #285 - 09/11/10 at 00:30:38
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Can someone post Marin's bibliography from this book? I'd like to know what sources he consulted before I consider buying it. Thanks.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #284 - 09/09/10 at 20:24:11
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Forget just one month, reel in the big fish Tony! Grin
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #283 - 09/09/10 at 18:21:23
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Anonymous3 wrote on 09/09/10 at 01:00:26:

I think there is almost 0% chance of this happening!

Really, why?
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #282 - 09/09/10 at 14:11:40
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It will be Reti, not Catalan.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #281 - 09/09/10 at 13:52:08
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Anonymous3 wrote on 09/09/10 at 10:54:39:
Kathry wrote on 09/09/10 at 09:21:33:
Anonymous3 wrote on 09/09/10 at 01:00:26:


I think there is almost 0% chance of this happening!

Also, does anyone know what Marin is recommending after 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5?


Vol. 1 is about 1. c4 e5, Vol. 2 + 3 are not yet published.


Yes, I know that. If the volume covering 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5 was already published I would know what Marin recommends but because they are not that's why I asked if anyone knows what Marin is recommending.


If I had to guess, I'd say 1.c4 e6 2.g3 d5 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.b3 Be7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.Bb2 b6 7.0-0 Bb7 8.e3. The only other serious try is to transpose into a Catalan with 4.d4, which doesn't really fit into a pure Flank Openings repertoire.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #280 - 09/09/10 at 10:54:39
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Kathry wrote on 09/09/10 at 09:21:33:
Anonymous3 wrote on 09/09/10 at 01:00:26:


I think there is almost 0% chance of this happening!

Also, does anyone know what Marin is recommending after 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5?


Vol. 1 is about 1. c4 e5, Vol. 2 + 3 are not yet published.


Yes, I know that. If the volume covering 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5 was already published I would know what Marin recommends but because they are not that's why I asked if anyone knows what Marin is recommending.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #279 - 09/09/10 at 09:21:33
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Anonymous3 wrote on 09/09/10 at 01:00:26:


I think there is almost 0% chance of this happening!

Also, does anyone know what Marin is recommending after 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5?


Vol. 1 is about 1. c4 e5, Vol. 2 + 3 are not yet published.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #278 - 09/09/10 at 01:00:26
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 04/02/10 at 12:33:48:
I wonder if Marin would be interested in doing a one off Flank Openings update for the site, just covering lines in his book? It would give Quality Chess some free publicity, Jacob? Wink


I think there is almost 0% chance of this happening!

Also, does anyone know what Marin is recommending after 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5?
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #277 - 09/08/10 at 10:04:55
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Kathry wrote on 09/07/10 at 18:04:53:
I guess white should take a closer look a 5.e3 to get an advantage?!

I agree, I remember analysing a game for the site a few years back which altered my opinion of this. Wink
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #276 - 09/08/10 at 02:44:41
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Polemaetus wrote on 08/16/10 at 02:00:06:
...I would rate the book 7,5 / 10. The explanations are very good and useful to get a feeling for this opening. But from a theoretical point of view, this is surely not a repertoire which can be used on GM or correspondence chess level.



I don't have the book yet, but I did borrow it from a friend a few months ago.  You have pointed out some very real holes in Marin's analysis. But this is a repertoire book. Even with the aforementioned holes, it seems that this book could indeed form the basis for a strong GM repertoire. 

You have shown specific flaws, but you have not seriously challenged his repertoire choices that I can see.

Can't a strong player, using Rybka or his favorite flavor of silicon, take the repertoire offered in this book and patch the holes with silicate?
  
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