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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #35 - 08/26/09 at 03:01:11
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I agree, this looks a like a great supplement for those who keep hoping for The Dynamic English 2nd Edition.  It almost makes me regret switching to 1.e4.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #34 - 08/26/09 at 02:36:16
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There is an excerpt available now at the Quality Chess website. If you liked Tony's Dynamic English repertoire, you should like Marin's - at least against 1...e5

http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/GMRep3-Englishvolone.pdf
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #33 - 08/01/09 at 12:49:35
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Apparently they're still typesetting it at present - end of August looks likely for publication.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #32 - 08/01/09 at 11:35:38
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I haven't ordered it, but I will certainly be purchasing it within the next few months, when it becomes available at a bookstore.

If anyone owns the book at present, could they please present a brief review?
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #31 - 07/31/09 at 22:18:08
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The book is available on amazon, has anyone ordered it yet??
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #30 - 07/27/09 at 08:11:44
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Thanks Paddy.
After checking his most recent games at chesslab I see that Marin obviously has changed his repertoire a bit - since the games in my out of date database.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #29 - 07/26/09 at 23:14:33
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Viking wrote on 07/26/09 at 19:14:15:
Marin has mainly played 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 so if the repertoire books reflect his praxis he has to deal with 2.-,e5. Then his selection of 1.c4 e5 2.g3 probably will just transpose.


Well, it is not hard to find out what Marin is playing currently, since he is active in Opens in Southern Europe and most of these events get reported.

I have 14 white games by Marin from 2009. In 12 of them he opened 1 c4, 2 g3. One game went 1 Nf3 d5 2 g3 with c4 coming later.

In one game he went 1 c4 Nf6 2 d4 and the game became a KID Classical. In three other games he answered 1 c4 Nf6 with 2 g3.

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #28 - 07/26/09 at 19:14:15
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Marin has mainly played 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 so if the repertoire books reflect his praxis he has to deal with 2.-,e5. Then his selection of 1.c4 e5 2.g3 probably will just transpose.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #27 - 07/20/09 at 18:37:19
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Maturin13 wrote on 03/05/09 at 16:42:21:

According to John Shaw at Quality Chess;

The publicity photo of the cover is not correct. Marin favours (in the book’s repertoire and his own play) 1.c4 e5 2.g3. The “real” cover of the book shows the position after 1.c4 e5.

I can't wait for this book. Luckily the July 22nd date given is very close now..... Smiley

That's a shame for me, I don't really like 2.g3. So this will basically be an update of Kosten and Davies work, perhaps with a bit more "rigour" given it will be 2 books?

Just a personal preference - I like 2. Nc3, with the aim of transposing into some d4 lines, or even e4 lines, eliminating lines I don't like (like Nimzo, with Mikenas instead). I also prefer to push d4 early in the symetircal (anti-benoni lines). While g3 seems to do fine statistically, I like Bagirov's mindset:

"Our analysis will be mainly concerned with 2.Nc3. Of course, other ways of developing, such as 2.g3, 2.Nf3, etc., are also possible, but they are less modern, and bear more resemblance to Reti's Opening or some kind of reversed Alekhine's Defence. Playing this way is possible, but it is unlikely to give you an advantage, and therefore we will not consider these moves".

Horses for courses - I think a Nc3 book would have been more interesting and a bigger market, but much harder to write in a "pure" flank opening way. So, I'm disappointed, but other people will be happy - can't please 'em all.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #26 - 07/20/09 at 05:54:27
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TN wrote on 07/20/09 at 00:04:34:
I'll be interested to see how Marin intends to fight for an advantage after the 'Dangerous Weapons' 2...c6 3.d4 e4 and 2...Nf6 3.Bg2 c6 4.d4 ed4 5.Qd4 Na6. In my opinion, White is not even close to an advantage against either line, although maybe that will change with this book. Wink


That 5...Na6 variation is something that white has to find some major improvements against. 

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After 1. c4 c6 the Gurevich Anti-Slav is just as good a try for an edge as the Panov Caro/Steiner Caro. Arguably it's better since black is known to have equality in the latter two cases.

Objectively transposing into strict 1. e4/1. d4 lines isn't best from the outset unless it is definitely the best course.

It'd be like telling a 1. c4 player they're best off transposing into the main-line Grunfelds when they have better options at hand when black wants to play that.

In the case of the Gurevich Anti-Slav white is taking up an anti-Meran structure that is normally played with d4 already in, which in fact makes the whole set-up with b3 less effective because the diagonal is closed. White retains more flexibility in this case.
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #25 - 07/20/09 at 00:04:34
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I'll be interested to see how Marin intends to fight for an advantage after the 'Dangerous Weapons' 2...c6 3.d4 e4 and 2...Nf6 3.Bg2 c6 4.d4 ed4 5.Qd4 Na6. In my opinion, White is not even close to an advantage against either line, although maybe that will change with this book. Wink
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #24 - 07/19/09 at 16:20:04
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Maturin13 wrote on 03/05/09 at 16:42:21:
On the other hand, the cover shows the position after 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 ...

http://www.amazon.com/Grandmaster-Repertoire-English-Opening/dp/1906552045/ref=p...


According to John Shaw at Quality Chess;

The publicity photo of the cover is not correct. Marin favours (in the book’s repertoire and his own play) 1.c4 e5 2.g3. The “real” cover of the book shows the position after 1.c4 e5.

I can't wait for this book. Luckily the July 22nd date given is very close now..... Smiley
  
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Reply #23 - 07/06/09 at 10:30:58
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Well, a repertoire is nothing but a coherent set of openings, in this case starting from move 1 and hopefully based on M.Marin's own experience. When you ponder your answer to 1.c4 c6, you don't care if it's called a CK or a Slav, you just analyse 1...c6 as conscientiously as 1...e5 or 1...g6, pick up your best answer and print it all out for us to buy & read. Considerations like "...and now White has reached a favourable transposition into a Brols, which is covered in the otherwise excellent Winning with the Brols, same editor" are just marketing tools.

What I'm more afraid of is that Marin goes the Khalifman way with vol1 1...e5/d6, then vol2 1...c5/g6 (those are a real treat for English authors) and then ...c6,...e6, ...Nf6 in some arrangement. Another delicate point is how to set the cursor between strategy and concrete variations, in an opening where "several mid-sized errors" are sometimes needed to unbalance the position. The truth is in the variations for sure, but here it's also important to know where your pieces want to go. Hopefully Marin will produce another great masterpiece !
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #22 - 07/06/09 at 07:18:00
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yes I understad your pont there that in flank openins sometis white needs to move order black into certain d4 or e4 openings to get advantage.   and it would be useful to get advice at least on which lines that is and some recommendations.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #21 - 07/05/09 at 20:14:22
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The problem FischerTal, is that the "objectively" best way to play for an opening advantage in the English, is to transpose into e4 or d4 lines sometimes (Caro Panov is a great weapon for example). This isn't a bad thing, as you can limit the mainlines you need to learn. So many English opening books turn out disappointing, because they try to make a go of something that will only ever really be a sideline that is not easy to play (either that, or they leave holes). I hope this will be better, but I have been disappointed a few times, so trying not to get hopes up here.
  
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