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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #380 - 11/08/10 at 18:34:15
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I think your approach is probably quite sensible.  In a way I would prefer it if Marin were to spend a little less time showing lines that are good for white, and a little more time identifying key resources for black that white is going to need to be ready to deal with.  If at the end of a short piece of analysis I have an obvious list of issues which I am going to need to research and address myself (in order to try to make the author's bespoke analysis work) then I think the work is incomplete.

I'm not saying an author needs to cover every line, but in this series of books Marin frequently suggests that the reader should rely on his original analysis as the route to an edge in particular systems (which have previously been known to be difficult for white), and then fails to address obvious alternatives for black.

I actually don't even mind if black equalises in such analysis; what I care about is knowing that the author has considered such issues and has a plan (even only an outline of a plan) for dealing with them.  Not an unreasonable expectation given the cover price of €35.99.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #379 - 11/08/10 at 15:44:57
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I got a similar impression in quite a few lines in his first book. I don't particularly mind, because I know that with 1. c4 and 2. g3 White probably shouldn't be better in all lines. It's just an interesting opening with complicated positions that I enjoy playing. Hopefully that's how a lot of readers look at it as well.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #378 - 11/08/10 at 14:54:23
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I would be very cautious of any book that claims to find an edge against all lines starting from move 2.  There is a lot of great analysis in Marin's books, but the more I read them the more I get the impression that Marin is almost willing white to be better.

I have just been flicking through volume 2 (particularly relevant to me as I have played both sides of a lot of these lines) and I have already found several lines where I would question the assessment of a white edge (generally because some sensible move for black has been ignored).

FYI, I really doubt that white has any kind of an edge in the line 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 c6 3.Bg2 d5 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.0-0 Nbd7 6.Na3 Nb6 7.Qc2 Qd5 8.Ne1!?
  
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Reply #377 - 11/08/10 at 14:47:04
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@anon3 Also Na3. Marin regards Bxa3 as the critical line leading to an unbalanced position, other moves he says give white a risk free "good-catalan" like game.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #376 - 11/08/10 at 05:40:29
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What does Marin recommend against 1 c4 e6 2 g3 d5 3 Nf3 or 3 Bg2 (I don't know which move Marin recommends here) 3...dxc4?
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #375 - 11/07/10 at 18:08:43
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@Viking

He advocates 5.Na3 instead of Qc2
  
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Reply #374 - 11/07/10 at 16:22:34
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I wonder if 1.c4 e6 2.g3 d5 3.Bg2 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.Qc2 Qd5!? is covered? (There is a separate thread on this line here somewhere).
If not - how does he avoid this anoying moveorder?
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #373 - 11/07/10 at 14:22:07
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c4 f5 g3 Nf6 Bg2 g6 Nc3 Bg7 d3 0-0 e4 fxe

Some moves were missing from tipau. But yes it is strange that this is missing.
I have not studied volume 1 that much, but it looks like you're not getting inton on of Marins advised structures/repertoires.

Maybe something for an update!
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #372 - 11/07/10 at 12:03:15
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I sincerely doubt if 6.d2xe4 has been played in GM games.
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #371 - 11/06/10 at 23:16:20
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The first thing I noticed about volume 2 is that it doesn't cover the line I usually play against the English:

1.c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 g6 4.Nc3 Bg7 5.e4 fxe4!? (Marin only covers transpositions to 1...e5 lines and 5...d6 6.Nge2 c5?! 7.exf5! which is good for White) now play usually continues 6.dxe4 d6 7.Nge2 c5 8.0-0 Nc6 with the idea of ...e5 and ...Nd4.

It seems a strange omission as it's been played in a number of GM games and was Kindermann's recommendation against the English in his well known book on the dutch.

Apart from that my early impressions are good.
  

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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #370 - 11/01/10 at 15:28:24
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notagmyet wrote on 10/20/10 at 01:10:19:
I'm thinking of taking up 1.Nf3, and notice that Marin's book has a chapter dedicated to "Reti Move Order". Question for anyone who's got this book: Is it worth buying this book if you're a Reti player?


Maybe volume 2, but not because of chapter 30 "Reti Move Order" which consists of 2 pages prose.


Volume 2 is great for Reti players. I love it very much!
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #369 - 11/01/10 at 11:57:34
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I've also perused a few of the sections, some more in depth than others. I've found what are maybe a few small quibbles, but nothing major at all. Fantastic books so far.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #368 - 11/01/10 at 08:35:36
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I glanced through the two new volumes yesterday. I liked what I saw. I've played the g3 lines for 10 years now. Before reading the three books from cover to cover, I'll have a look at what I've met and see where I should focus my studies.
  

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Reply #367 - 10/30/10 at 09:46:40
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notagmyet wrote on 10/20/10 at 01:10:19:
I'm thinking of taking up 1.Nf3, and notice that Marin's book has a chapter dedicated to "Reti Move Order". Question for anyone who's got this book: Is it worth buying this book if you're a Reti player?


Maybe volume 2, but not because of chapter 30 "Reti Move Order" which consists of 2 pages prose.
  
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Re: Grandmaster Repertoire 1.c4 by Marin
Reply #366 - 10/30/10 at 07:54:03
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any more user reviews?
  
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