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Re: Simple question
Reply #8 - 03/06/09 at 19:37:36
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MNb wrote on 03/06/09 at 11:06:12:
I thought it was the other way round - the simplicity of the plan Nf3, Be3, Qd2, Bd3, 0-0-0, h2-h4-h5, Be3-h6 and mate is typical for 150-players.


That's my understanding too.

As for grade conversions, the conversion formula

ELO = ECF x 8 + 600

is where ELO 1800 for ECF 150 comes from

But my experience is  that's quite off.

Then the English Chess Fed used

ELO = BCF x 5 + 1250

Which gives

ELO 2000 for ECF 150

which seemed closer.

However the ECF rating system is getting overhauled this year with ECF ratings being increased, and apparently the new formula will be

FIDE = New ECF x 8 + 650

http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/newgrades.php

Huh



  

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Re: Simple question
Reply #7 - 03/06/09 at 19:28:31
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Check out the "Dodgy Games with Dodgy Names"  link by IM Andrew Martin here:
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller/urusov/links/opening_analysis.html
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A) The 150 (or U1800 for outside UK ) Attack

1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be3 0-0 6.Qd2

So named by the hustlers because only a 150 could play with such a lack of subtlety, ignorant of the colossal counterpunching potential of the Black position.
  
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Re: Simple question
Reply #6 - 03/06/09 at 19:05:41
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150 BCF = 1800 Elo.

I read in Chess Monthly that it is called the 150 Attack because a 150-graded player can easily beat a much higher-rated opponent with the clockwork attack that arises if Black goes wrong.
  
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Re: Simple question
Reply #5 - 03/06/09 at 18:39:51
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star1 - google is a wonderful tool, you should try it  Wink

E.g. one of the first hits is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirc_Defence
  
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Re: Simple question
Reply #4 - 03/06/09 at 12:02:07
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 03/06/09 at 03:55:52:
The name is Gary Lane's invention, I believe. It refers to the British grading system. 150 in the British rating is equivalent to Elo 2000. You shouldn't play the line, it seems, if you have 1900 or 2100.

I may be wrong but I think that 150 BCF is about 1800 Elo  Huh
  

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Reply #3 - 03/06/09 at 11:50:38
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MNb, you are right. In Kaissiber 11, Gary Lane wrote in "Der 150er-Angriff" that the simple attack on the kingside were the dream of any club player, which gave the system its name.
  
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Re: Simple question
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I thought it was the other way round - the simplicity of the plan Nf3, Be3, Qd2, Bd3, 0-0-0, h2-h4-h5, Be3-h6 and mate is typical for 150-players.
  

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The name is Gary Lane's invention, I believe. It refers to the British grading system. 150 in the British rating is equivalent to Elo 2000. You shouldn't play the line, it seems, if you have 1900 or 2100.
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03/06/09 at 02:50:23
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Why (B08) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be3 is called the ''150 Attack'' ?

I'm so new to the Pirc/Modern.
  
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