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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #17 - 05/28/09 at 19:42:52
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One line they don't mention is (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d4 Bxd4) 5.0-0.  I don't know if Black can advantageously retreat the bishop, but if 5...Nf6 then 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.f4 transposes to a gambit line that often arises from 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 and is currently considered dangerous for Black.

The Miami Variation, 5.Nxd4 Nxd4 6.Be3, looks good enough for dynamic equality, but no more.  There seem to be a couple of decent options for White after 6.0-0 d6 (avoiding 6...Nf6 7.f4) which may also be equal.

The 4.d4 move order has the advantage of avoiding 4.0-0 d6, but the disadvantage that 4...exd4 does not transpose to the Max Lange- after 5.0-0 (the book correctly prefers 5.c3) 5...d6! 6.c3 Bg4! Black is at least equal and probably a bit better.

Another possible hole is 4...Nxd4!? with the idea 5.Nxe5 Qe7, overlooked in all theory books until recently.  Perhaps 5.0-0 Nxf3+ 6.Qxf3 should be considered.
  
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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #16 - 05/28/09 at 12:52:19
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MNb wrote on 05/28/09 at 01:31:38:
Markovich wrote on 05/27/09 at 15:18:21:
For example, they give a surprisingly dense treatment of the Kaidanz Variation of the Modern Two Knights (5.e5 d5 6.Bb5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 Bc5 8.Nxc6!? Bxf7+ 9.Kf1 Qh4)

Have they something new to offer here? The last time I looked at it my evaluation was =+ at least. Eg 10.Nc3 0-0 11.Nxe4 dxe4 12.Qe2 bxc6 13.Bxc6 Bd4 and White has longlasting problems with his/her king.


I don't think that new ideas are the strong suit of this book, though it does offer some new stuff, notably the "Miami Variation."  But in this case no, there is nothing new.  It's not =+ but a draw by repetition after 10.Nxa7+ as pointed out by Emms.
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #15 - 05/28/09 at 10:10:34
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i like the stories and history in the book.  the things i don't like abou the book is how disorganized it can be looking up lines, especially in part one.   

they do not have a summary at the end of the section and no real recommendation of which lines to do.  as for the miami variation Be3 does not really look that good, especially against Ne6.  if an expert with all the computers and books he can use and only get a draw, something does not look right... then again he was playing against Jude Acers.  btw does Jude play this as white?   

overall i would recommend the book for the history and ethuasim, that alone is worth the price of the book.
  
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Reply #14 - 05/28/09 at 01:31:38
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Markovich wrote on 05/27/09 at 15:18:21:
For example, they give a surprisingly dense treatment of the Kaidanz Variation of the Modern Two Knights (5.e5 d5 6.Bb5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 Bc5 8.Nxc6!? Bxf7+ 9.Kf1 Qh4)

Have they something new to offer here? The last time I looked at it my evaluation was =+ at least. Eg 10.Nc3 0-0 11.Nxe4 dxe4 12.Qe2 bxc6 13.Bxc6 Bd4 and White has longlasting problems with his/her king.
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #13 - 05/27/09 at 21:04:34
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I hope to see more books by Acers/Laven duo. I don't know much entertaining chess books. This book is truly original.
  

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Reply #12 - 05/27/09 at 15:18:21
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I also received a copy of this yesterday, and it is indeed both interesting and entertaining.  It's a very American book, with lots of stories, often closely related to the material, about interesting events in American chess.  The actual chess in it is fascinating, and should be useful, inspiring even, to many players.  Assuming that the work is intended mostly for young and improving ones, there is a very commendable emphasis on open positions and active piece play.  The evaluations are sometimes biased in White's favor, but in a book of this kind, that's to be expected.  I don't think it diminishes the potential usefulness of the book, so long as readers approach it with a little skepticism.  

Personally I would have preferred a more straightforward and consistent layout, without so much reliance on special headers and boxed text which, for me at least, increased the difficulty of discovering the place that any given piece of actual chess was supposed to have in the overall presentation.  On the other hand, it's clear that the idea behind this method of presentation is to entertain, and it largely succeeds.  

As a repertoire, this is more of a shotgun than a rifle, with lots of alternatives for White.  The authors suggest four or five different ways of confronting Alekhine's, for example.  I don't think that is bad at all for the presumed audience, for whom general principles are more important than theory, and looking at so many different ideas can be quite instructive.

The authors throughout cover the salient points without delving too deeply into every last alternative that Black might play.  Even so, the coverage of the positions after 1...e5 is reasonably deep.  The authors occasionally lapse into unusually deep coverage of not always very critical positions.  For example, they give a surprisingly dense treatment of the Kaidanz Variation of the Modern Two Knights (5.e5 d5 6.Bb5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 Bc5 8.Nxc6!? Bxf7+ 9.Kf1 Qh4), especially given that they eventually prefer 8.Be3. They even cover 8.0-0 at some length.

The degree of exhaustiveness of the coverage diminishes as the work moves out of the open game and into the semi-open.  But in general, enough information is presented to suit the needs of what I take to be the intended audience.  

The weakest chapter is the final one, whose subject is the Sicilian.  One has the impression that there was not enough time to finish it properly, or perhaps not enough money to keep Acers engaged in the project to the last (I merely speculate).  In any case, I don't think that the choice of a Sicilian repertoire based on Bb5 was a very good one for what I take to be the intended audience.  I'm surprised that with the authors' happy emphasis on gambit-style play, they didn't plump for the Wing Gambit or the Smith-Morra. That would've reduced the burden of work as well, a burden not satisfactorily borne in the final chapter.

I recommend this book without hesitation to young and improving players, and to anyone else who wants to be regaled by Acer's interesting perspective on the game and by the many chess anecdotes he recounts here.  It shouldn't be taken very seriously as a work of chess theory, but I don't think it's intended to be.
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #11 - 05/27/09 at 14:30:31
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Today i finally received this book.
1st part is great, second very superficial (esp. french and pirc chapters).
I like this book but i think i found some holes in Max Lange analysis.
Anyway, I highly recommand this book, it's interesting and entertaining!
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #10 - 05/17/09 at 16:09:11
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I would like to thank all of you for your interest & comments on "Jude Acers Book" (The Italian Gambit).  It is nice to see discussion of this type in 2009.  The book was published in 2004.  Just discovered this site & forum!  Looks like a great place to expand & complement one's Chess knowledge.  I plan to visit often.

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Co Author "The Italian Gambit"
  
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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #9 - 04/28/09 at 22:44:53
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urusov wrote on 04/21/09 at 12:16:41:
Acers and Laven recommend a number of lines for each of Black's alternatives, so it is difficult to list them all.  Against the Caro-Kann, they give the Advanced (3.e5 Bf5 4.Bd3!? Bxd3 5.Qxd3 e6 6.Nc3 etc. as in Nimzovich-Capablanca, NY 1927 with several White improvements -- not a bad line at all and one discussed by Kotronias favorably)



Isn't this just equal afther, say, e5 Bf5 4.Bd3!? Bxd3 5.Qxd3 Qa5+ 6.Nc3 Qa6    ?
Anyway I can't wait for this book Smiley
  

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Reply #8 - 04/21/09 at 19:18:44
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Obviously I am thinking of a different book.  This one sounds pretty good for young and improving players.
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #7 - 04/21/09 at 17:34:07
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I have the book.  The 1.e4 e5 section is the "meatiest" part of the book and is IMO pretty good- plenty of humour and anecdotes as well as serious analysis.   I think Markovich must be thinking of a different book, for instance the Boden-Kieseritzky is ironically one of the few Giuoco Piano-related lines not covered in the book.

There are some recurring problems, notably the fact that sometimes it isn't made clear what Acers thinks best play is, some over-optimistic assessments (sometimes a position will be given as +/- when += would be more realistic) and sometimes a line is given an assessment early on, only for Acers's subsequent analysis to contradict that assessment. 

But on the whole I think the analysis is pretty good.  I think their coverage of the 4.d4 Bxd4 lines (the main subject of the book), and of the Goring Gambit lines arising from 4...exd4 5.c3 dxc3 6.Nxc3 (6.Bxf7+ is also covered adequately, but in less detail), is particularly good.  For example, in the latter line, after 6...d6, 7.0-0 is given a "?!" by Muller and Voigt in Danish Dynamite, with their main line running 8.Bg5 Bg4 9.Nd5 Ne5 =+, but Acers and Laven take the analysis further and provide a convincing case for the viability of the line.   And of course there is detailed coverage of the main move, 7.Bg5.

I don't think much of the "1.e4 others" section- the recommendations are perfectly sound, but the section isn't written with the same degree of enthusiasm as the 1.e4 e5 section.  Still, it only takes up a small fraction of the book anyway.  

In conclusion I'd recommend this book to anyone who is interested in the romantic 1.e4 e5 gambit lines and is graded up to at least 2000 (some of the recommended lines might work at a higher level than that as well- at least against  the right opponent and on the right occasion).
  
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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #6 - 04/21/09 at 12:31:36
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urusov wrote on 04/21/09 at 12:16:41:
Acers and Laven recommend a number of lines for each of Black's alternatives, so it is difficult to list them all.  Against the Caro-Kann, they give the Advanced (3.e5 Bf5 4.Bd3!? Bxd3 5.Qxd3 e6 6.Nc3 etc. as in Nimzovich-Capablanca, NY 1927 with several White improvements -- not a bad line at all and one discussed by Kotronias favorably), the Two Knights (2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 Bg4 4.d4!? e6 5.h3 Bh5 6.Be2!? Nf6 7.exd5 Bxf3 8.Bxf3 +=) -- each with all Black's important alternatives covered.  Against the French it is the Advanced gambit line (3.e5 c5 4.Nf3!? cxd4 5.Bd3), Tartakower's 3.Bd3 (which also gets favorable coverage in one of the SOS books), and a simplified 3.Nc3 repertoire (3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bd3!? or 4.Bg5 Bb4 5.Bd3!? plus others, and against 3...Bb4 they give a range of 4th move options including 4.Qg4!? , 4.Qd3!?, or 4.Bd2, 4.Bd3, 4.a3, and 4.Nge2).  All of these lines are ignored by theory pretty much because they are considered equal, but the authors are not troubled by that and anyone below 2000 probably should not be either.  Games below 2000 are never decided in the opening.  Getting a playable game is all that matters.  

Against the Pirc it's 4.f4 Bg7 5.e5 dxe5 6.dxe5 Qxd1 7.Kxd1 Ng4 which I like to call the Simplified Pirc.  Then they give four additional lines.  And against the Alekhine there are lots of interesting and unusual lines, including 3.Nc3.  Sicilain, mainly 3.Bb5 lines.  The list goes on and on -- but for each opening they do not stick to a narrow repertoire but give you lots to choose from.



Thak You for this review!
I Definitely bneed to buy this book! Smiley
  

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Reply #5 - 04/21/09 at 12:16:41
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Acers and Laven recommend a number of lines for each of Black's alternatives, so it is difficult to list them all.  Against the Caro-Kann, they give the Advanced (3.e5 Bf5 4.Bd3!? Bxd3 5.Qxd3 e6 6.Nc3 etc. as in Nimzovich-Capablanca, NY 1927 with several White improvements -- not a bad line at all and one discussed by Kotronias favorably), the Two Knights (2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 Bg4 4.d4!? e6 5.h3 Bh5 6.Be2!? Nf6 7.exd5 Bxf3 8.Bxf3 +=) -- each with all Black's important alternatives covered.  Against the French it is the Advanced gambit line (3.e5 c5 4.Nf3!? cxd4 5.Bd3), Tartakower's 3.Bd3 (which also gets favorable coverage in one of the SOS books), and a simplified 3.Nc3 repertoire (3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bd3!? or 4.Bg5 Bb4 5.Bd3!? plus others, and against 3...Bb4 they give a range of 4th move options including 4.Qg4!? , 4.Qd3!?, or 4.Bd2, 4.Bd3, 4.a3, and 4.Nge2).  All of these lines are ignored by theory pretty much because they are considered equal, but the authors are not troubled by that and anyone below 2000 probably should not be either.  Games below 2000 are never decided in the opening.  Getting a playable game is all that matters.   

Against the Pirc it's 4.f4 Bg7 5.e5 dxe5 6.dxe5 Qxd1 7.Kxd1 Ng4 which I like to call the Simplified Pirc.  Then they give four additional lines.  And against the Alekhine there are lots of interesting and unusual lines, including 3.Nc3.  Sicilain, mainly 3.Bb5 lines.  The list goes on and on -- but for each opening they do not stick to a narrow repertoire but give you lots to choose from.
  
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Reply #4 - 04/21/09 at 08:14:01
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urusov wrote on 04/21/09 at 00:43:26:
I think "The Italian Gambit System" is a very good book, especially for anyone below 2000 rating.  It is quite well produced for a book not from a standard chess publisher (it is put out by Trafford, which is publishing on demand).  And precisely because its production was not governed by a professional chess editor, it does not confine itself to a narrow repertoire and avoid all sorts of extra detail.  Instead it reads like a great opening book of days past, covering practically all of the Giuoco Gambit lines (basically any with an early White d4 -- no Pianissimo here), plus a "Guiding Repertoire" of unusual or easy to learn lines against all of Black's alternatives against 1.e4. And it is full of wonderful asides and stories and good stuff from Acers.  Of course, it has some small errors here and there and small design flaws, but it was actually well conceived design-wise and that overcomes small flaws.  

For analysis, I think it surpasses Andy Soltis's "Giuoco Piano and Max Lange Attack," since it has a much broader scope, covering a wide range of lines and alternatives -- and because it offers a complete 1.e4 repertoire for White.  And there are a lot of new ideas here, many of which have since been absorbed into later analysis.  I think it contributed to the recent Max Lange revival, for example, but other analysis has followed and offered much detail.  However, when it was published in 2003 it was really a breath of fresh air for the gambiteer and full of new ideas at the time.  And its guiding repertoire has some interesting suggestions.  Yes, the analysis in the guiding repertoire is not deep, but it gives you what you need to know below 2000.  Meanwhile, the Giuoco stuff is very strong in places and full of ideas.  Very worth having.



Thank You for this great review. I' m interested in some gambit lines in Italian also. Since I don't have a time to study Lopez that may be something for me.
Do You have this book? Can You tell me what he recoomands against french caro scandinavian alekhine etc?
Thanks

Glenn Snow wrote on 04/21/09 at 01:19:55:
Here's a couple of links to reviews on the book from a couple of free sites:

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/ItalianGambit.htm

http://www.italiangambit.com/Jeremy%20Silman%20Review.htm

If you're interested in the main gambit line recommended in the book then you should pick up Dangerous Weapons: 1.e4 e5.



I know reviews You posted but they are mainy about e4e5 part, and I'm curious what he gives agains french caro etc.
I didn't know about DW e4e5 book. I'll check that later. Thanks.
  

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Re: Jude Acer's book
Reply #3 - 04/21/09 at 01:19:55
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Here's a couple of links to reviews on the book from a couple of free sites:

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/ItalianGambit.htm

http://www.italiangambit.com/Jeremy%20Silman%20Review.htm

If you're interested in the main gambit line recommended in the book then you should pick up Dangerous Weapons: 1.e4 e5.
  
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