tafl wrote on 05/12/09 at 06:19:39:
In a way 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nf3 e6 4.Nc3 is an excellent anti-Stonewall weapon as 4...d5?! 5.Bf4 is very difficult for Black. On the other hand this probably is a rather harmless system after Black's best move 4...Bb4. In my database White scores only 45% in 1187 games. Statistically 5.Qb3 looks best (the only move to score over 50%). A mainline seems to run 5...a5 6.g3 b6 7.Bg2 Bb7 8.O-O O-O when Black still scores well above 50% but with some notable names (Smyslov, Sakaev, Malaniuk, Yudashin, Gurevich etc.) on White's side.
White can also use 4. Qc2!? as a waiting move in that line, and end up going for the the d4/c4/Nf3/Nc3 structure since the white Q ends up on c2 anyway in those lines. If black plays 4...d5 then 5.Bf4!
It side-steps all of the ...Bb4 lines, at any rate. Black has no way to make use of the Queen move, except perhaps going into an IZ Dutch (usually not a Stonewall player's repetoire), where the queen move is less than ideal.
At any rate, whatever the antidote would be to 4.Qc2, it wouldn't be the Stonewall.
Quote:Another challenge if you go for the d4, c4, Nf3, Nc3 set-up is the move-order 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 when White must go for the Noteboom (4.Nf3 dxc4), the Marshall (4.e4!?) or allow a transposition to the Stonewall with 4.g3 f5 or 4.e3 Bd6 5.Nf3 f5.
4.Qc2 can be used (again) as a transpositional tool to reach the Nf3/Nc3 system (indeed it is how I do it). As soon as black commits to ...Nf6 it simply becomes a Closed Catalan (which is something white certainly does not fear).
As soon as black commits to ...f5 white has Bf4 immediately, and only
then slides into the Nc3/Nf3/Qc2/e3/Bd3 structure.