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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #15 - 10/24/09 at 20:09:10
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Davies covers this in his new DVD : a solid repertoire against 1.d4 and 1.e4
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #14 - 08/22/09 at 19:01:41
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That strange 3...f5 probably transposes to a very normal Dutch: 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 and 4...Bb4. In this case 1.d4 e6 2.c4 Bb4+ 3.Nc3 Bxc3+ 4.bxc3 f5 might be more precise. In the Dutch White often suffers when accepting this crippled pawn structure.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #13 - 08/20/09 at 20:14:33
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CheckMate wrote on 08/19/09 at 18:49:25:
TN wrote on 06/24/09 at 00:10:30:

Theory claims that White obtains the advantage with 3.Bd2 (3.Nc3 and 3.Nd2 are both equal).


It would be interesting if you told us the equalizing line after 3. Nc3. As I see it 3 ... Nf6 is a Nimzo-Indian, while 3 ... b6 4. e4 Bb7 transposes to the mainlines of the English Defense, and 3 ... f5 is a strange sort of Dutch. 



I dunno how strange 3...f5 is, actually.  It looks like a pretty good move to me.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #12 - 08/20/09 at 00:12:42
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Maybe some of you have point out that Tony Kosten play this system twice with black pieces in the current french championship. He played 3.Bd2 a5.
Results one win and one defeat
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #11 - 08/19/09 at 19:02:26
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I think it has long been a common view that the Bogo should be slightly better for White with best play, while the NID and QID should be equal.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #10 - 08/19/09 at 18:49:25
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TN wrote on 06/24/09 at 00:10:30:

Theory claims that White obtains the advantage with 3.Bd2 (3.Nc3 and 3.Nd2 are both equal).


It would be interesting if you told us the equalizing line after 3. Nc3. As I see it 3 ... Nf6 is a Nimzo-Indian, while 3 ... b6 4. e4 Bb7 transposes to the mainlines of the English Defense, and 3 ... f5 is a strange sort of Dutch. 

How can White avoid a transposition to the Bogo after 3. Bd2 Qe7? By delaying Nf3? Or do you mean theory tells the Bogo-Indian gives an advantage to White? Maybe it does, but in that case so does the QID and NID too. White is white.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #9 - 07/23/09 at 16:46:34
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Michael Rohde, a fiftyish US grandmaster.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #8 - 07/23/09 at 14:20:38
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saubhikr wrote on 07/23/09 at 11:44:46:
I saw Michael Rhodes playing this line in local tournaments. May be his games might give some ideas.


Who??
Is he related to a celebrity cook?
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #7 - 07/23/09 at 11:44:46
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I saw Michael Rhodes playing this line in local tournaments. May be his games might give some ideas.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #6 - 07/02/09 at 09:49:32
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I know 1 d4 e6 2 c4 Bb4+ as Keres Indian or Franco Indian 
"Franko-Indisch" in several old german (opening) books
Franco/Franko ~ France/French (not ~ General Franco)

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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #5 - 07/02/09 at 08:57:28
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See Flearv Arkell for a nice game by Glenn at Southend this year !
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #4 - 06/24/09 at 01:56:28
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Keres.

Best source - the Eingorn opening book. Forget the title.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #3 - 06/24/09 at 01:46:43
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I dare to challenge that claim after 1.d4 e6 2.c4 Bb4+ 3.Bd2 Qe7
a)4.Nc3 Nf6 (NID)
b)4.Nf3 f5 and 5...Nf6
c)4.g3 f5 and 5...Nf6

but have no clue about
d)4.e4.

If Black wants to take this up (s)he should not only study the Bogo-Indian, but also the ...Bb4 variations of the Dutch, as Fllg remarks.
One advantage of this move order could be avoiding the somewhat annoying 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Bb4+ 5.Nd2, which imo is stronger than 5.Bd2. But I have never figured this out.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #2 - 06/24/09 at 00:10:30
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There have been a couple of earlier threads on this variation, although I don't have time to find them right now.

Theory claims that White obtains the advantage with 3.Bd2 (3.Nc3 and 3.Nd2 are both equal), but I don't think White can claim more than a small edge after 3...Qe7, and the position has a strong resemblance to the Bogo-Indian.
  
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Re: Pseudo Nimzo - 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4
Reply #1 - 06/23/09 at 15:42:56
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I have seen Keres name attached to this because he played it in the 1930´s vs. Alekhine and Capablanca.

One point is to have the f-pawn ready to advance, transposing to Dutch-setups. As far as I can see in my database setups with Ne7 haven´t been popular here.

I don´t know any sources except from ECO/NCO etc.
  
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