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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #104 - 01/07/10 at 21:24:58
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Markovich wrote on 01/06/10 at 13:43:33:
Actually, this book is generous enough with its positional reasoning that I think it can be read with interest by a wide range of players.  Like I said though, it is at best a survey work and breaks little if any new theoretical ground.

One thing that particularly disappoints me is that the main lines of the Alburt Variation are relegated to a side note, albeit a lengthy one.  In the game that the author treats, 5.Bc4 is met by 5...c6.  There are not that many recent high-level games with 5...Nb6, I suppose, but since it's the main path, it deserves deeper consideration.


Many things have puzzled me on this book.
Length of chapters, etc, Lines overcovered and lines undercover.
For instance, the author says that 4...Bg4 was the main line somewhile ago, than it was replaced by 4...g6 and then by 4....dxe5.
However, we see the same length for 4...Bg4 as for the rest. 

However, with respect to the line in the Vaganian game, I think it is a sideline of a sideline.

First 5...Nb6 was relegated to a sideline (however, I must confess that I have nothing against what was said there).
Then, when I saw 5...c6, I thought that the Vaganian
line (meaning Vaganian played it frequently and even Ivanchuk) which includes the moves exd6 Qxd6 would be covered. I was interested to see what he would say about this line. But then, Vaganian played dxe5 at the wrong time allowing dxe5! and we have,
before move 10, a line that only happens if one of the
players makes the wrong sequencer of moves. This should be a sideline and not the main game

  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #103 - 01/06/10 at 13:43:33
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Actually, this book is generous enough with its positional reasoning that I think it can be read with interest by a wide range of players.  Like I said though, it is at best a survey work and breaks little if any new theoretical ground.

One thing that particularly disappoints me is that the main lines of the Alburt Variation are relegated to a side note, albeit a lengthy one.  In the game that the author treats, 5.Bc4 is met by 5...c6.  There are not that many recent high-level games with 5...Nb6, I suppose, but since it's the main path, it deserves deeper consideration.
  

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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #102 - 01/06/10 at 12:42:34
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I am keen to agree with Markovich: this book can be useful as a survey.
It cannot be compared with Baguirov's book as it is not so detailed and neither with Cox's book with which I started looking at the Alekhine.
It neither does bring new idea's but offers from time to time a new look at more or less known positions. The explanations are also quite interesting as, in my eyes, it is the only thing that can be considered as "new".
So, a good complement to existing books but not to be recommended for beginners nor experimented players looking for really new assessments.
  

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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #101 - 01/06/10 at 09:52:00
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I disliked Bogdanovic's book so much so i exchanged it after two days i received it with his Grunfeld book which i also dislike! The thing is that this book has said nothing new to me! Also i think that some of his comments and evaluations are misleading. Sorry, i cannot post exactly them now because i don't have the book anymore!

So, the book is not for an expert in the opening, i hear you say. Ok, so is it for a beginer? Maybe for a beginer it would be usefull but for that Cox's book is much much better! So, i couln't recomend this book to anybody. But, this is only my opinion ofcourse. Maybe the expectations shouldn't be so high at the start. I hope Taylor's book would at least have some original effort.
  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #100 - 12/31/09 at 17:25:51
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By the way, Taylor's book has appeared in the "coming soon" in the everymanchess website.
So, probably, no delay

However, still no pdf

and a happy New Year to all of you

and let us hope we will see good Alekhine games, from Black point of view, in the New Year
  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #99 - 12/30/09 at 11:49:05
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Markovich wrote on 12/30/09 at 11:16:12:
Fair enough, but it boils down to a matter of opinion. 


I suppose it does. And perhaps I'm not as objective about Davies book because it was my first opening book  Grin. Yesterday I opened it for the first time since long because I'm participating in an Alekhine thematical tourney. That's also why came over to this part of the forum.
  
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Reply #98 - 12/30/09 at 11:16:12
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Fair enough, but it boils down to a matter of opinion.
  

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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #97 - 12/30/09 at 11:09:00
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CraigEvans wrote on 12/29/09 at 13:11:08:
The book is not "bad" by any standards. However, I have not learnt anything from it that I did not already know from other Alekhine sources, and it does not cover any lines in enough detail to, in itself, allow you to play them. But with the minimal number of pages, I suppose this shouldn't in itself be unexpected.

I would these days go as far as to say, for anyone wishing to play the Alekhine at a decent level, then this forum and the ChessPub eBook is as good a source for anything. Certainly the ideas that have been produced to improve play in the Voronezh and 4PA, as well as some lines like the Miles and Alburt, are more detailed than any book is likely to be. Flawless analysis? Probably not... on the other hand, more likely new ideas that your opponents, even the booked-up ones, will have never seen. 

Further than that, Cox and Burgess's books, and some Kaissiber/CBM articles should be more than enough for anyone. I do not have Davies' book as he was far too down on black's chances in some lines and made no real attempts to rehabilitate them. There are also some nice offbeat ideas in the older Hort/Eales & Williams books which are long-forgotten and possibly worth another look.


What a weird reason not to have the Davies book, considering he actually played the Alekhine. His book contains a lot of interesting ideas. 

  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #96 - 12/30/09 at 10:56:18
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Damn, I logged on just now to correct "Bologan" to "Bogdanov" (big diff in playing strength), but you'd already caught it.

I agree that there is not enough coverage of the most critical lines.  The treatment of Bologan's (ha ha) line against the Old Main Line is especially shallow; he doesn't treat 12...h5 at all, and 12...h6 only briefly.  The game he analyses, Iordachescu-Chigladze, Plovdiv 2008 is marred by a bad mistake by White on move 11.

But I'll stand my ground on my general evaluation of this book, taken as a survey.  And I do think that fairly good positional interpretations (which are more useful for weaker players than strong ones, it's true) are much more characteristic of Bogdanov's writing than dry evaluations.
  

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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #95 - 12/29/09 at 20:57:55
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Markovich, you mean "Bogdanov" and not "Bologan", right?

I respect your view and assessment as a chess coach (I believe you are, or were, a chess coach) but I am still on the negative level with respect to this book.

The sentence you have mentioned is interesting and very important for a chess explaining type of book, 
which is what this books appears to be. However, I am not sure it is the first time I have seen such an explanation for that kind of position.

The problem is: where are the similar explanation sentences for the variations most played nowadays?
I did not learn a thing on the Miles (And I needed and wanted to learn), or the Voroznez (actually, I did, he mentioned the variation with a5 instead of e5 and was not negative about it, but this was a side comment). 
I am not referring that he should spend time with lots of variations as we did here. I am speaking about concepts.

I also think that the book is full of "a line or two followed by a dry, unexplained evalution" as you said.

Of course, there were a few things I liked, like his explanative sentences on the Flohr were Ok, to me; his coveragee of the 4 PA (2 games and contents appear to be ok; another one, I dont understand why it is there).
  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #94 - 12/29/09 at 16:09:48
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I finally received my copy of Bologan's book on Christmas Eve, which brightened my holiday.  I've now had the chance to look at it at some length, and for what it is, a broad survey of the opening based on recent games, I like it very much.  Bologan's frequent observations on the positional pluses and minus of various continuations are very teacherly, not surprising perhaps, given that he's a respected chess coach.  This increases the value of the book for a first-time Alekhine student.  For example, his analysis of Fedorowicz - Baburin, San Francisco 2002 is packed with long paragraphs interpreting the various positions.

After 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 e6 6.O-O Be7 7.c4 Nb6 8.Nc3 O-O 9.h3 Bxf3 10.gxf3 Nc8 11.f4 Nc6 12.b4 Bh4, Bologan says:

"14...a6 creates another defensive set-up on the queenside.  Now the advance with a4 and b5 requires preparation and leads to the opening of the a-file.  While this will fall into White's hands, the number of the combat units will decrease.  Recapturing on b5 with a piece opens the line of attack on the b7-pawn, but on the other hand weaknesses appear in White's own camp as well."

Personally I find this sort of thing much more illuminating than a line or two followed by a dry, unexplained evaluation.

Nobody should look to this book for interesting new ideas, but as a survey work, I think it's very good.
  

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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #93 - 12/29/09 at 13:11:08
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The book is not "bad" by any standards. However, I have not learnt anything from it that I did not already know from other Alekhine sources, and it does not cover any lines in enough detail to, in itself, allow you to play them. But with the minimal number of pages, I suppose this shouldn't in itself be unexpected.

I would these days go as far as to say, for anyone wishing to play the Alekhine at a decent level, then this forum and the ChessPub eBook is as good a source for anything. Certainly the ideas that have been produced to improve play in the Voronezh and 4PA, as well as some lines like the Miles and Alburt, are more detailed than any book is likely to be. Flawless analysis? Probably not... on the other hand, more likely new ideas that your opponents, even the booked-up ones, will have never seen. 

Further than that, Cox and Burgess's books, and some Kaissiber/CBM articles should be more than enough for anyone. I do not have Davies' book as he was far too down on black's chances in some lines and made no real attempts to rehabilitate them. There are also some nice offbeat ideas in the older Hort/Eales & Williams books which are long-forgotten and possibly worth another look.
  

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Reply #92 - 12/27/09 at 20:05:33
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We are referring to an article in CBM
  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #91 - 12/27/09 at 15:35:53
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I find the critiques very helpful and may more than scare me away from picking up the text. I try to have everything published on the Alekhine, but may pass on this one. 

You recommend Rogozenko for up-to-date info on the Miles variation. I have been travelling these past few weeks and away from the internet, so I must have missed this reference. may I humbly ask who is he and where I may pick up the material.

Perhaps the reason no material was forwarded on from the great Russian analysts in his school was that most of it is far out-of-date and therefore virtually useless.
  
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Re: New Alekhine Book pushed back
Reply #90 - 12/26/09 at 16:15:56
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As I said in a previous post in this thread

"ii) the three games in the Miles which were advertised 
in the pdf [with Be2, Bd3 and Bc4] made me think the most about this book; however, the lines followed in these games are not the topical ones played by White (these topical lines are very briefly mentioned in the sidelines).
One point I would like to make is that the Miles is more about ideas rather than moves, and I was expecting a deep explanation of some of those lines

if you are interested in the Miles, Rogozenco is quite good but also at the recent one by Finkel in the latest NIC Yearbook (this one is quite good also but is more specific - mostly about Be2)
  
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