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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #10 - 11/12/09 at 22:42:29
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naughtyknight wrote on 11/12/09 at 18:24:06:
Thanks for the continuing debate. I own Starting Out: The Accelerated Dragon, and I didn't think the bind was such an issue, so that seems like a way to go which I had not considered.

I'm enjoying the discussion. It's nice to find something which as not been discussed to death on the forum!

I have been dabbling a lot with 1.d4 lately, but against Benoni/Benko stuff I refuse to play d5 but just play Nf3. I got into the bind twice now already and I cant think of a reason why black would want to enter it via that route. For starters some of the nicer ideas are gone because Nf6 has been played already.
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #9 - 11/12/09 at 20:29:40
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Keano wrote on 11/12/09 at 11:45:44:
naughtyknight wrote on 11/11/09 at 18:43:35:
Does anyone have any good repertoire suggestions for playing the Benko against, say, 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3? Is the best bet to head into a Kings Indian with 2...g6?

Are there any interesting move orders for a Benko player to use in different situations? 

Perhaps learning the Kings Indian to play the Benko is overkill!


I gave this question some thought a while back and came to the conclusion 2...g6 is a good move-order - not to play a KID but to go back into the Benko after 3.c4 with 3...c5. There is a catch though, as there is with all move-order problems in chess. White can play 4.Nc3 and we´ll end up in a Maroczy bind. If you´re prepared to defend the Maroczy as Black (which in my view is not a bad option - Andrew Greets book and a look at the Tiviakov DVD should suffice) then 2...g6 is the way to go.


Agree with this post. If you are willing to play the accel dragon from time to time- this is a good bet to trick some whites into a benko.
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #8 - 11/12/09 at 18:24:06
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Thanks for the continuing debate. I own Starting Out: The Accelerated Dragon, and I didn't think the bind was such an issue, so that seems like a way to go which I had not considered.

I'm enjoying the discussion. It's nice to find something which as not been discussed to death on the forum!
  
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Reply #7 - 11/12/09 at 17:01:25
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TN wrote on 11/11/09 at 21:18:37:


I suggest 2...e6 3.c4 c5 with the intention of 4.d5 b5 as being a good alternative.


This is the Blumenfeld Gambit, is it not?  Is it sound?  I thought that it was considered a bit dicey.  Obviously also, you have to prepare the Torre if you play 2...e6.  Not necessarily a bad thing, of course.

@Stefan: How do you continue after 2.d5 when White doesn't play c4?

  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #6 - 11/12/09 at 12:32:02
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Alluren wrote on 11/12/09 at 11:23:56:
Markovich is right. Except that, below 2000, 99% of your opponents won't answer 2...c5 with 3.d5 but with 3.c3 or 3.e3

That's why I prefer 1. ... c5.
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #5 - 11/12/09 at 11:58:29
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It will be interesting to see how Pedersen plans to deal with these questions. But his books is a good seven months away still:
http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Play_the_Benko_Gambit
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #4 - 11/12/09 at 11:45:44
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naughtyknight wrote on 11/11/09 at 18:43:35:
Does anyone have any good repertoire suggestions for playing the Benko against, say, 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3? Is the best bet to head into a Kings Indian with 2...g6?

Are there any interesting move orders for a Benko player to use in different situations? 

Perhaps learning the Kings Indian to play the Benko is overkill!


I gave this question some thought a while back and came to the conclusion 2...g6 is a good move-order - not to play a KID but to go back into the Benko after 3.c4 with 3...c5. There is a catch though, as there is with all move-order problems in chess. White can play 4.Nc3 and we´ll end up in a Maroczy bind. If you´re prepared to defend the Maroczy as Black (which in my view is not a bad option - Andrew Greets book and a look at the Tiviakov DVD should suffice) then 2...g6 is the way to go.
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #3 - 11/12/09 at 11:23:56
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Markovich is right. Except that, below 2000, 99% of your opponents won't answer 2...c5 with 3.d5 but with 3.c3 or 3.e3
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #2 - 11/11/09 at 21:18:37
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Markovich wrote on 11/11/09 at 20:21:25:
naughtyknight wrote on 11/11/09 at 18:43:35:
Does anyone have any good repertoire suggestions for playing the Benko against, say, 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3? Is the best bet to head into a Kings Indian with 2...g6?

Are there any interesting move orders for a Benko player to use in different situations? 

Perhaps learning the Kings Indian to play the Benko is overkill!


Definitely, it is overkill.  Many Benko practioners (perhaps there are not many Benko practioners, in which case I should say a high proportion of Benko practitioners) go with 2...c5 3.d5 b5!?.  I believe that the preferred reply then to 4.Bg5 is 4...Qb6.


I agree with your recommendation and indeed sometimes use it myself, but as a secondary option (which does involve more work) I suggest 2...e6 3.c4 c5 with the intention of 4.d5 b5 as being a good alternative. Black does not have to know much more theory than he does with 2...c5, since White has a similar number of D-pawn specials against 2...c5 compared to 2...e6, and White's 4th move alternatives are not dangerous for Black (and 4.Nc3/g3 cd4 5.Nd4 transposes to 2.c4 c5 3.Nf3, leaving only 4.e3).
  
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Re: Playing the Benko...
Reply #1 - 11/11/09 at 20:21:25
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naughtyknight wrote on 11/11/09 at 18:43:35:
Does anyone have any good repertoire suggestions for playing the Benko against, say, 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3? Is the best bet to head into a Kings Indian with 2...g6?

Are there any interesting move orders for a Benko player to use in different situations? 

Perhaps learning the Kings Indian to play the Benko is overkill!


Definitely, it is overkill.  Many Benko practioners (perhaps there are not many Benko practioners, in which case I should say a high proportion of Benko practitioners) go with 2...c5 3.d5 b5!?.  I believe that the preferred reply then to 4.Bg5 is 4...Qb6.
  
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Does anyone have any good repertoire suggestions for playing the Benko against, say, 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3? Is the best bet to head into a Kings Indian with 2...g6?

Are there any interesting move orders for a Benko player to use in different situations? 

Perhaps learning the Kings Indian to play the Benko is overkill!
  
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