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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #114 - 06/03/12 at 14:21:06
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"MacCutcheon" is apparently also a fictional brand of whisky in "Lost" :)

I still wonder what the Scottish preference would be? For MacDonald and McDonald, to me "Mac" seems more Scottish than the  burger chain's Mc, but according to wiki:

[quote]MacDonald, Macdonald, and McDonald are Anglicised forms of the Scottish Gaelic name MacDhòmhnaill.[/quote]

So, isn't this "correct spelling" debate a lot like the "Kortchnoi / Korchnoi / Kortschnoj / Kortnoy / Kortjnoj" (etc), debate? How the person himself spells it does not stop every language group from having their own officially correct spelling...
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #113 - 06/03/12 at 12:40:19
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/02/12 at 17:41:57:
Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/01/12 at 14:54:04:
Books published by Everyman Chess don't count.

Only because those books are not contemporary, of course. 
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #112 - 06/03/12 at 01:54:41
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What, the MacCutcheon is named after a Western Pennsylvanian?? I'm a Western Pennsylvanian myself, by birth. Born in Mercer. 

But that's quite interesting. Who was this MacCutcheon? Or McCutcheon, as the case may be?
  

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Reply #111 - 06/02/12 at 17:41:57
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/01/12 at 14:54:04:
Books published by Everyman Chess don't count.

Only because those books are not contemporary, of course. 
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #110 - 06/02/12 at 17:17:57
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 06/01/12 at 18:14:56:


I was surprised by this as well, but if more evidence is needed, here's what Jeremy Gaige says (Chess Personalia, McFarland 1987):

MacCutcheon, John Lindsay
     vide: McCutcheon

and

McCutcheon, John Lindsay
     b 28-05-1857   Allegheny, PA, USA
     d 17-07-1905   Pittsburgh, PA, USA
     ... (with references)
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #109 - 06/01/12 at 18:48:41
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https://www.schachversand.de/scripts/QEStartSeite.idq?CiBookMark=N-46edb60-8d7-4...

Schachversand have 30/06/12 for this book, so perhaps last week of June is publishing.
  

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Reply #108 - 06/01/12 at 18:14:56
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #107 - 06/01/12 at 18:11:30
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/01/12 at 14:54:04:
Books published by Everyman Chess don't count.


The books I reached for first were:

Tim Harding - The Classical French (Batsford)
Steffen Pedersen - The Main Line French: 3 Nc3 (Gambit)

which both have "MacCutcheon"

whereas:

Byron Jacobs - French Classical (Everyman)

has "McCutcheon"

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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #106 - 06/01/12 at 15:36:10
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That's not the meaning of "contemporary" he meant ...

BTW, a couple more books using "McCutcheon" are Nunn's Chess Openings and Practical Chess Openings (the latter by Reuben Fine from the 1940s).
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #105 - 06/01/12 at 15:32:45
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/01/12 at 14:54:04:
Show me a contemporary source which calls him "MacCutcheon".


Ok, that one is easy: "The French Defence - Reloaded" Chess Stars, 2012

I do believe the correct spelling is McCutcheon, though and "The Modern French", New In Chess, 2012
gets it right.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #104 - 06/01/12 at 14:58:50
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[quote]I wonder if Edward Winter has had anything to say about it. [/quote]
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/winter60.html

See 6217.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #103 - 06/01/12 at 14:54:04
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 06/01/12 at 14:23:48:
Checking my books "MacCutcheon" is mostly used.

His name was McCutcheon, there never was any doubt about it. Show me a contemporary source which calls him "MacCutcheon". Books published by Everyman Chess don't count. In a database of old US newspapers a search for "McCutcheon chess" delivers more than 800 hits, including the man's obituary. "MacCutcheon chess" - zero hits, nothing.
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #102 - 06/01/12 at 14:36:23
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Neil McDonald has McCutcheon in his "How to play against 1. e4"  Wink
  
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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #101 - 06/01/12 at 14:23:48
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 05/30/12 at 17:54:47:
I suggest that Play the French 5th edition changes the spelling to McCutcheon.


Checking my books "MacCutcheon" is mostly used. But I notice that the Oxford Companion has:

"McCutcheon Variation, 1205, a line in the FRENCH DEFENCE played by John Lindsay McCutcheon (1857-1905) of Pittsburgh against STEINITZ in a simultaneous display at New York in 1885."

I wonder if Edward Winter has had anything to say about it.
  

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Re: C00-C19: Play the French 4th edition?
Reply #100 - 06/01/12 at 14:07:45
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ghenghisclown wrote on 05/31/12 at 07:21:07:
I see. I wonder if 
3. Nd2  Nf6 4. e5   Nfd7 5. c3   c5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7.Ne2 cxd4 8. cxd4 f6 9. Nf4  Nxd4
10. Qh5+ Ke7 11. exf6+ Nxf6 12. Ng6+ hxg6 13.Qxh8 Kf7 14. Qh4 e5 15. Nf3 Bb4+  is looked at...

yes

Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 06/01/12 at 00:17:56:
I also wonder how many pages will be for 6...Qa5 7. Bd2 Qa4 8. Qb1.

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