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Poll closed Question: Who will win the Anand - Topalov Match?
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Topalov +3    
  1 (1.5%)
Topalov +2    
  9 (13.6%)
Topalov +1    
  8 (12.1%)
Topalov after tie break    
  1 (1.5%)
Anand after tie break    
  4 (6.1%)
Anand +1    
  25 (37.9%)
Anand +2    
  14 (21.2%)
Anand +3    
  4 (6.1%)




Total votes: 66
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Re: WC Match Anand - Topalov
Reply #224 - 05/30/10 at 12:47:49
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Anand: 8/43/27
Topalov: 6/17/19

The win/loss rate of both is about 1:3, but Anand managed to draw more often.
  

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Reply #223 - 05/30/10 at 12:32:06
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He did yes. And, as I remember, it annoyed Kasparov Smiley

But I doubt his lifetime score was especially impressive. He certainly lost the odd super spectacular game....

I haven't checked but I'd be surprised if Anand's lifetime score vs Kasparov wasn't somewhat better than Toplaov's. For one thing Topalov wasn't quite at full current strength when Kasparov was around, and his very sharp style not ideal for playing someone that strong.
  
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Reply #222 - 05/29/10 at 22:54:12
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as a matter of fact topalov defeated kasparov in their last game, which is something not according to garys taste.

MartinC wrote on 05/29/10 at 18:50:10:
Suspect he did that to Topalov too you know Smiley 
(he certainly got a bit better once Kasparov retired. Physcological boost or something.).

Basically Danilov seems to have annoyed a lot of people. Hardly a surprise given the way he's been going on recently is it? 

  
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Reply #221 - 05/29/10 at 18:50:10
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Suspect he did that to Topalov too you know Smiley 
(he certainly got a bit better once Kasparov retired. Physcological boost or something.).

Basically Danilov seems to have annoyed a lot of people. Hardly a surprise given the way he's been going on recently is it?
  
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Reply #220 - 05/29/10 at 18:33:56
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it's quite obvious kasparov is glad that anand is world champion, since kasparov beat him easily in a match, and he can say he beated the current world champion with ease when he was still active ...
  
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Reply #219 - 05/29/10 at 12:15:31
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lol, Kd3 intending b4 seems pretty convincing.
  

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FIDE based on just 27 games.
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Reply #218 - 05/29/10 at 09:50:31
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@IM Cox.
The encounters Kasparov-Vladimirov happened in the 2001 rapid match Europe-Asia with Kasparov on the Europe team and Vladimirov on the Asia team.
Apparently Kasparov changed his opinion on Vladimirov's role since 2001.
@Re: Anand, Topalov and computer power.
According to the interviews Anand got a 16-core machine on lend from Hiarcs. 
Would it be too far fetched to suppose that he also had available the new Hiarcs 13.1 MP program, that was released shortly after the match?

Regarding blunders in WC-matches:
Here is one from 1958 return match featuring my 'heroes'  Smyslov and Botvinnik:

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Here Botvinnik decided to play Kc5??
Can you spot why he had to resign after white's next move?



  
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Reply #217 - 05/27/10 at 21:30:02
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Amazing how in the midst of all this, Topalov has lost none of his charm.
  

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Re: WC Match Anand - Topalov
Reply #216 - 05/27/10 at 20:33:15
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Topalov has attacked Anand, saying that he shouldn't be very proud of the help he rec'd from Kramnik and Kasparov.   

Anand responded by thanking the players who helped him and saying that it was mostly emotional rather than technical support, which was greatly appreciated.

Topalov must be devastated. He not only lost the second of the two most important matches of his life, his colleagues seem to have ganged up against him.  As I said earlier, I do feel a bit sorry for Topalov.  Anand did absolutely nothing wrong, but Topalov's snide comment is a natural reaction.
  
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Reply #215 - 05/21/10 at 08:12:38
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Didn't Vladimirov and Kasparov actually meet OTB at some rapidplay event, and shook hands and all? I think the general mutual forgiveness happened in connection with that.

I always assume Gazza doesn't write his potboilers, but you'd think he at least read them and noticed whom he was libelling, I agree. Interesting.

SH, thanks for the Geller AOCT reference. By coincidence I was looking for that the other day for my QGD book.
  
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Reply #214 - 05/21/10 at 05:51:13
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"The Geller/Karpov/Spasski case is well documented".
This is a rumour as well. The only source is in a book by Byrne. Karpov's official seconds at the time were
Razuev and Furman. Though this is not conclusive:
for the 1978 the official seconds were Balashov and Zaitsev. But 5 or 6 other GM's were permanently involved in Karpov's preparation.

More important is that there is no direct evidence from Spassky, Karpov or Geller or anyone else directly involved in the match.

Wat is documented is that Geller was indeed Karpov's second for the match with Korchnoi, which took place later in 1974.

As for the Vladimirov/Kasparov case. If my memory is correct, than Kasparov admitted that he had no hard evidence. Though his verdict was rather "not proven" than "not guilty"  Huh

Looking back on the history of the world championships between 1974 and 2009 we may be thankful to have Anand as World Champion!

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Reply #213 - 05/21/10 at 02:58:53
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As a thumbrule I never ever accept an accusation coming from Kasparov, especially if the accused is or has to do with Karpov. In 30 years Kasparov hasn't been able to prove even one.
This does not necessarily mean that I think Karpov always innocent.
  

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Reply #212 - 05/20/10 at 16:13:11
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Wow! I read an interview a couple years ago where he said that Vladimirov probably didn't do anything wrong and that he (Kasparov) was just under extreme pressure at the time.   I'll have to look at what he says in the book.  I'll also try to find out my source.
  
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Re: WC Match Anand - Topalov
Reply #211 - 05/20/10 at 09:53:39
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 05/20/10 at 01:41:05:
Right, John.  Years later, after all the acrimony of the K-K matches had worn away, Kasparov magnanimously acknowledged his attack on Vladimirov was unjustified.


Really? Kasparov's latest book Kasparov on Modern Chess Part 3 (Kasparov vs Karpov 1986-1986) describes the events (Karpov winning 3 games in a row) and implicates Vladimirov on pages 197-200. The section is titled  "A Stab in the Back". 
  
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Reply #210 - 05/20/10 at 04:12:27
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Geller did work for Spassky when he played Fischer. In his "The Application of Chess Theory" he tells how he used left-over preparation from that match to blow Timman out of the water Smiley
  
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