TheHug wrote on 12/14/10 at 17:34:24:
Actually Markovich, These are for in general for any subject that is talked about. There are something that an experienced CC player knows. I just gave that comment as an example. When studying one's games I can usually tell if they are relining on mostly engine moves. If they do there is a chance sometimes to out play them in dramatically equal positions. I say this form experience. Not saying it happens all the time.
I agree entirely about Markovich and would extend that comment to Mnb as well. They are easily some of my favorite knowledgable commentators in this forum. Regardless of having no indepth 'knowledge' of this sideline. I take anything they have to say seriously.
But I also highly agree with you in regards to
TheHug wrote on 12/14/10 at 17:34:24:
Plus there is a bonus here that most don't book up on this and don't always understand the ins and outs of it.
I think that this lends itself to why I have had such a high success with the Wing Gambit. Others are all too willing to rely on already published analysis/engine spit out while I try to actively find my own improvements in the system from the experiences i've already had on what does and does not work.
MNb wrote on 12/14/10 at 09:56:41:
trw wrote on 12/14/10 at 06:28:46:
Not that I couldn't be wrong, but I certainly don't think it is as easy as you claim.
Eehh, I have to correct you. I never claimed it was easy. As I never expect more than equality for my old love the Morra Gambit I won't demand more from the Wing Gambit. I would consider equality a moral victory. It's just that I am sceptical from the time I considered it and tried it a few times as White. The main reason, as I already wrote, those 3...d5 lines. Frankly I got interested several years ago because of
Chuliwska-Pages de Garriga, 2002, which imo almost refutes 5...e5. Here you are not telling me anything new.
When I have the time I will look at your analysis; I will also consider a match with you. As I am also quite busy you will have to wait for an answer at least a week.
I apologize for leaving out a pair of moves in the line 1.e4 c5 2.b4 cxb4 3.a3 d5 4.exd5 Nf6 and now I meant 5.axb4 Nxd5 6.d4/6.b5 Bf5.
(I am a bit puzzled that you think 3.d4 ugly, as White almost almost plays this move anyway, but I am perfectly willing to concentrate on 3.a3)
My match offer can stay on the table as long as you want. It is just a friendly match offer. Nothing ill will be taken if it is declined. I just always have fun in such positions so would gladly play a few if you want.
Regarding 3. d4 I feel it is too committal to make this claim in the center so quickly. In many of the Wing Gambit lines you get a full center or no center. I have not studied this move in depth but I remember briefly seeing all the 3. d4 positions as quite ugly when I decided to try out the Wing a long time ago. I'm all too willing to believe it is =+ after 3. d4
re your corrected line one) ah that makes far more sense. I will have take a look at that when I find some time.
I can't find the game you mentioned. Would you mind posting it?
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