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Re: Grunfeld Exchange Var. Nf3 / 8.Rb1 and 9.Qd2!?
Reply #2 - 05/13/11 at 14:27:34
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I remember 9.Qd2 had been suggested in an old german book by IM Otto Borik more than 20 years ago.

Despite being a lifetime e4-player I even tried this in a game against a friend in 1990 who back then regularly played the Grunfeld. There followed 9... Nc6 10.d5 and I managed to win an unclear game in the end with a rook sacrifice.

When I annotated the game afterwards I concluded that indeed 9... Bg4! is best with the follow up 10.d5 Qa5! (10... Bxf3 11.gxf3 Qa5 12.Rb3 c4 13.Bxc4 Rc8 14.Qe2 Bxc3+ 15.Kf1 +/- intending Kg2 and h4-h5)  11.Rb3  c4 12.Bxc4 Rc8 13.Qe2 Bxc3+ 14.Kf1 Nd7 -/+ intending ... Ne5.

Don´t laugh at me if this doesn´t hold up. It´s not computer checked and I haven´t taken a new look.
  
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Re: Grunfeld Exchange Var. Nf3 / 8.Rb1 and 9.Qd2!?
Reply #1 - 05/12/11 at 23:51:08
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My first reaction without a board or computer is to suggest 9...Bg4!  White looks clumsily placed, doesn't he?  10.Rxb7 Bxf3 11.gf cd 12.cd Bxd4 and isn't Black better?

A long time ago, when 8.Rb1 first appeared, 8...Bg4 was thought to be OK.  The very first time I ever played 8.Rb1 was in a casual game against Martyn Corden (USCF 2450) in '96 or '97.  I had only just seen 8.Rb1 after looking in Psakhis' Complete Grunfeld for something easy to play as White!  There were only a few pages on it in Psakhis' book so it looked like a pretty theory-free way to try for an edge to me at the time  Grin.  Martyn replied with 8...Bg4 and crushed me; I still remember the game.  Anyway 8...Bg4 was soon found to be theoretically lacking (long before the game I played against Martyn), but I think it looks good here since White has wasted a tempo and stuck the Queen on an odd square.  I'd be inclined to give 9.Qd2 a ?! or ?.
  
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Grunfeld Exchange Var. Nf3 / 8.Rb1 and 9.Qd2!?
05/12/11 at 20:27:41
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Hi Grunfeld-Experts,
can s.o. tell me the advantages/disadvantages of the following move order in the exchange Grunfeld Var.:
1.d4-Nf6
2.c4-g6
3.Nc3-d5
4.Nf3-Bg7
5.cxd5-Nxd5
6.e4-Nxc3
7.bxc3-c5
8.Rb1-0-0
9.Qd2!?

My idea is:
After 9.Be2 (main line), white has to sacrifice the a-or c-pawn.
I always think,that you have to play very exactly (sometimes only one move is the correct way) to get the initiative for the pawn.But i know, that I will find not the best moves to manage this target.The initiative is not a firm advantage like a space advantage.
With 9.Qd2!? I can prevent e.g. 9.--Qa5? because of 10.Rb5!.
What do you think ?
  
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