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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #17 - 05/31/11 at 23:36:12
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Why 2100 Elo players should not write about chess.  A stronger player backing them up such as with Sverre Johnsen seems to work out ok though.

Of course it's not nearly as bad as David Rudel (under 1400) writing about the Colle-Zuketort.
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #16 - 05/31/11 at 20:58:11
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knightmare wrote on 05/31/11 at 10:01:07:

Concerning Bf4, I found an article by abby Marshall on Chesscafe yesterday, but that article is of extremely low quality. 


I have ckecked the Abby Marshall's article (http://www.chesscafe.com/abby/abby.htm)...

I will not say "low quality" but "need improvement".

Some lines are missing such as: 

4...Bd6!? 5.Bxd6 Qxd6 6.Nc3 Bf5 7.Nf3 Nd7 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.Qxd3 and now 9....ooo (instead of Nfg6) Piroth-Apicella,France 2003

or 4...Nc6 (waiting for placement of White bishops and knights + hinder Bd3) and then 5.Nf3 Bd6 (because of quick development and Re8+ to threaten) eg 6.Qd2 Nf6 7.Nc3 oo 8.ooo Bb4!  ; 5.Nc3 Bb4 (at once) ; 5.Qd3 (ok for long castle but it is square for f1 bishop, no?) Nf6 6.ooo oo ; 5.Bb5 Bd6.

For 4...Bf5:  4...Bf5 5.Bd3 Bxd3 6.Qxd3 c6 7.Nd2 Bd6 8.Bxd6 Qxd6 9.Ngf3 Ne7 10.oo Nd7 11.Rfe1 oo 12.Re2 Ng6 13.g3 Rae8 is variation (or maybe main line, I have not checked it) of Karpov-Stein, Caracas 1970 game

  

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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #15 - 05/31/11 at 11:49:58
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About the Exchange...

4.Bf4: discussed a little on this forum (search for Taljechin post and the answer 4...Bd6!?)

4 Nf3 Bg4: variation I play (I can name it"Kasparov's line" if long castle for White and Black ... "opposite castling" if White castles short and Black long..merely with a Nc6 move for Black...see McDonald's book about French Winawer.. "Morphy stategy")

4...c6: I will not play it except for 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bd3..because it not fits in my systems with opposite side castling....maybe book ginger runs for the "classical" lines of the Exchange (with short castles White and Black)

4 Bd3 Nc6 5 c3 Bd6 : opposite castling line, Nc6 deters White from playing c4

with 6 Nf3 Bg4 or 6 Qf3 Be6 7 Ne2 Qd7

4 c4 Nf6 5 Nf3 Be7 : going for queen's gambit line with isolated d-pawn line for White. I recommend to work about Normund Miesies games (with White).

and I add

4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.a3 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 and here my current work (about many lines in my French repertoire) showed me (last saturday) an unsual line with 7...Nce7!?





  

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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #14 - 05/31/11 at 10:01:07
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ErictheRed wrote on 05/30/11 at 18:19:46:
I'm curious if he actually treats the Exchange with any depth?  What does he recommend against 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3, 4.Bd3, 4.Bf4, etc? 


Concerning Bf4, I found an article by abby Marshall on Chesscafe yesterday, but that article is of extremely low quality. 4...Bf5 equalizes on the spot, as white has to play Bd3, after which the whole idea (playing Qd2, 0-0-0 and a kingside attack) does not work anymore. 

If you're frustrated with the Exchange, check the lines with queenside castling. Black has lots and lots of opportunities to play for a win in those lines. The only way to get something out of the opening in the Exchange for white is 4.c4. 
  

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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #13 - 05/30/11 at 18:32:06
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ErictheRed wrote on 05/30/11 at 18:19:46:
I'm curious if he actually treats the Exchange with any depth?  What does he recommend against 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3, 4.Bd3, 4.Bf4, etc?


Yes, there's quite a lot on the Exchange, since "it does occur regularly at club level."

His lines are:

— 4 Nf3 Bg4 and 4...c6 5 Bd3 Bg4
— 4 Bd3 Nc6 5 c3 Bd6 with 6 Nf3 Bg4 or 6 Qf3 Be6 7 Ne2 Qd7
— 4 c4 Nf6 5 Nf3 Be7

4 Bf4 is not mentioned, but there's also some stuff on 3...Qxd5!?
  

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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #12 - 05/30/11 at 18:19:46
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I'm curious if he actually treats the Exchange with any depth?  What does he recommend against 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3, 4.Bd3, 4.Bf4, etc?  The main reason I don't play the French is that about 75% of my games against lower rated players ended up in the Exchange.  And I don't care what anyone says, those positions can be hard to win from.  Maybe I need more experience in them, or to study them more, but most resources basically ignore them and there isn't much study material out there.
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #11 - 05/29/11 at 17:06:07
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Suspect the overlap might well be minimal.

Think it'd be fair to say that all the lines are at least slightly speculative Smiley Its a little bit like an extended, sounder version of a dangerous weapons book. 

In fact he's impressively/almost surprisingly honest about it in places.
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #10 - 05/29/11 at 15:18:00
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Daniel wrote on 05/28/11 at 18:56:31:
My only complaints are that some of the lines are speculative and he didn't use some excellent sources such as Moskalenko's Wonderful Winawer


Agreed, although im going to compare the two when i can be bothered and see if this matters
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #9 - 05/28/11 at 18:56:31
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My only complaints are that some of the lines are speculative and he didn't use some excellent sources such as Moskalenko's Wonderful Winawer
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #8 - 05/24/11 at 08:55:45
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No worries, he does Smiley
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #7 - 05/23/11 at 20:34:37
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Konstriktor wrote on 05/23/11 at 19:40:35:
Interesting!
And the Tarrasch? The 11. ... Qc7?


The time is really overdue for some in-depth coverage of this system now. I've been trying to learn it starting from Williams' DVD and Pedersen's Tarrasch book a.o., but the first thing I realized is that White actually has many different playable setups, and can choose sharp and critical or a calm maneouvrig game, according to taste.

The Williams DVD covered the main lines 12.Bg5 0-0 13.Bh4, 12.Bg5 0-0 13.Rc1 and 12.g3. But White can also play the old 12.Nc3 a6 13.Bg5 (considered += in NCO), simple development with 12.Nc3 a6 13.Be3 followed by h3, Re1 etc., or the recently popular 12.Bd2!?. In a blitz game just a few hours ago I faced the completely non-theoretical 12.Ng3 0-0 13.Re1 and even that gave White a reasonable position, and on my database even 12.b3 (once played by Gashimov) is scoring well.

So while I'm starting to believe Black should be OK in this line, he should prepare something specific against each of White's tries and not just focus on the current main lines.

PS: The sample looks very good and inspirational (just like Williams' DVDs!). I hope he takes the 9.Nf4 Tarrasch line a bit more seriously in the book than on the DVD though.  Wink
  

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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #6 - 05/23/11 at 20:19:21
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Yup. 3.. Nf6 with 11..Qc7, the critical g5 stuff vs the universal etc.  5 .. Bd7 with 6 .. f6 in the advance, with a very amusingly toxic anti Milner Barry.
(which I've used in one game a bit back, producing a 14 move win.....).

As per the goals of the series, very aggressive indeed, and mostly theoretically respected. Seems as if it'd be mostly great fun.

Suspect you'd need to do a bit more work to make it totally watertight for some uses (its certainly not as analytically dense as Watson say) but it'd have been a huge book then! And the fine detail is what gets obsoleted anyway.

And to be honest lines with this will always have vague/critical areas. Goes with the territory.
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #5 - 05/23/11 at 20:13:33
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Indeed!
  
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Re: Attacking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #4 - 05/23/11 at 19:40:35
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Interesting!
And the Tarrasch? The 11. ... Qc7?
  
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Re: Attaking Chess: The French by Simon Williams
Reply #3 - 05/23/11 at 17:16:34
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ericmittens wrote on 05/23/11 at 16:13:35:
If it's anything like his GingerGM DVD he'll be recommending Uhlmann's "universal" setup against the positional winawers (Nc6,Qa5,Bd7 etc...), as well as the poisoned pawn with an early d4.


In the "Poisoned Pawn" this time he recommends 7... Qc7 8.Qxg7 Rg8 9.Qxh7 cxd4 10.Ne2 Nbc6 11.f4 dxc3 12.Qd3 Nf5 instead of 12... d4 as on his DVD.
  
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