Keano, if you are talking about the last line given by Marin with 11.Nc3 0-0 12.Ne2  d5 13.exd5 Na5 14.Qb4 Nf5 15.Bd3 Qd6 than material is equal for the moment. After your idea 16.Qb1 you may be right that Blacks pieces are not well placed. Instead of playing 16... g6 Black can take on d5 with the Queen but White certainly has very active play and Black must defend accurately.

Marin also mentiones 12... Qxe4 which he considers dangerous because of 13.Ng3 Qg6 14.Bxe7 Nxe7 15.Ne5 with compensation for White. Some computer generated lines like 15... Qf6 16.Nh5 (or 16.Ne4 Qf4) Qh6 17.Bxf7+ Kh8 do not show a clear immeadiate refutation of Blacks play so this should be investigated further. If this is good for Black White has to look earlier for improvements.

In the second edition he had the best-play branches of 6...ed 7. Qb3 coming out as equal.

kylemeister wrote on 06/02/11 at 19:14:25:


Ok, thank you for that!

This really seems to be equal ...
But of course equal is no draw. The better player will win this endgame imo
Maybe there is an alternative for white?
I will check this variation and then I will tell you what I think

kylemeister wrote on 06/02/11 at 19:00:23:


I like white´s position after 13.Qxc4 fxg5 14.d6!
(not 14.Bxg5?! Bxf2+ =+)

Marin regarded 12...Nxc4 as leading to equality.

Even Gustafsson on his DVD admits the Evans is a dangerous choice which is why he opted for the solid looking 5... Be7 6.d4 Na5. This has it´s logic of course but putting the Knight on the rim does not look so appealing to me here. 

Has there been any improvements for White in the lines after 5... Ba5 as given by Marin in "Beating the Open Games"? As far as I remember this leads to equality but White has to know his stuff as well as Black. One of my games went 5... Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Nge7 8.Qb3?! 0-0 9.cxd4 Bb6 10.Qd1? d5 and I was able to score an easy point.

OK, I'm still pretty new to this, so forgive my if this sounds arrogant.

Why are people talking about 3...Nf6 in response to a thread about the Evans Gambit?
3...Nf6 has nothing to do with the Evans Gambit as it is a completely different opening/defense/whatever you want to call it. 

Obviously the Evans Gambit is after 3...Bc5, so i don't understand this. Someone said something about wanting to play the Evans Gambit all the time, obviously this isn't the case after 3.Bc4 since 3...Nf6 just leads elsewhere. 

Its just kind of like saying, i want to play the Nimzo Indian all the time, but the problem is 3.Nf3 or 3.g3. They're just different openings. Perhaps a bogo/queens indian/benoni/benko. Then it would just be like starting a conversation about one of these openings. Put it in a different thread perhaps.

Anyway, as i'm still obviously shocked at this thread i might as well put some input as far as chess goes. Yes 3...Nf6 is possible, but the downside is of course 4.Ng5 and the Max Lange Attack. If Black plays 3...Bc5, he can now play (after 4.0-0) 4...d6(!) and it more or less avoids any of White's fun. 

With 3...Bc5 you don't have these problems, but now the Evans Gambit is available for White. So i want to put this discussion back on track. What does Dembo recommend if anyone has CBM 142????

Again, sorry if that was arrogant. 

Appreciated, CaptainFuture, but I never denied that the Two Knights is interesting. Maybe you could contribute a few things in the various thread in the 2K's? I would appreciate that even more.
Can we agree that everyone wanting to take up the Evans Gambit also should take 3...Nf6 seriously into account? Because, I repeat it, 3...Nf6 is an important reason for me not the play this interesting gambit.