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Reply #57 - 06/22/11 at 01:47:20
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MNb wrote on 06/21/11 at 17:06:49:
According to Alexander Cockburn (wow, that name) all great players are gay and want to kill their father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Cockburn#Bibliography

See his book Idle Passion from 1975.


I can see why he thinks people want to kill their father with that name of his. Grin
  

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According to Alexander Cockburn (wow, that name) all great players are gay and want to kill their father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Cockburn#Bibliography

See his book Idle Passion from 1975.
  

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Reply #55 - 06/21/11 at 12:17:47
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Stefan, thanks for all that info; you are most resourceful.  I did seem to recall that Reshevsky was 5-2, but I had nothing to back it up.  I never realized that Steinitz was only 4-11.  What a strange man to behold he must have been.

We should now inaugurate a thread on the sex lives of the great players.
  

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Reply #54 - 06/20/11 at 19:17:36
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/20/11 at 18:31:24:

I've been ill since mid-2010 and can only apologize for my failure.


I´m sorry to hear that and hope you get well soon again. There is no need for an apology. I simply miss the interesting and inspiring articles in Kaissiber...  Smiley

Also I can imagine it is very demanding to publish a magazine like that in todays world. Luckily for us readers you have already succeeded 37 times  Wink
  
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Reply #53 - 06/20/11 at 19:08:49
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@Markovich. Regarding Morphy and shoes, Reuben Fine got it all wrong. Phrenology is more of a science than Fine's book on chess psychology. That said, your re-incarnation with traveling back in time explains a lot. Lev claimed a while ago that Nimzowitsch were reincarnated in Bent Larsen. This seemed strange, because Nimzowitsch died only 12 days after Larsen's birth. 

From Steinitz' autopsy, as reported by Dr. L. C. Pettit ("The Pathology of Insanity", Proc. Amer. Med.-Psych. Assoc, 1901): 

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With a dwarfed appearance (height four feet eleven inches) due to arrested development of the lower extremities, was found an almost entire occlusion of the common iliac arteries; . . . the aorta . . . was a mere calcareous shell. The brain was almost phenomenal in the development of the orbital and frontal convolutions as shown by their increased number and diminished size. The orbital plates presented deep indentures conforming to the convolutions which were in prominent relief. The entire brain weighed 1462 grams; its relative weight to the body was as one to twenty-eight. The intellect displayed during life, coupled with the degenerative and morbid conditions found after death, seem clearly to place the case under the heading of pseudo-genius or mattoid.
 
Personally I prefer "mattoid".

Reshevsky. John Kobler wrote in "The Icy Wizard of the Royal Game", Sports Illustrated, October 17, 1955:

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At 43, Reshevsky, despite his smallness, is an imposing figure whose icy boardside manner is a weapon which powerfully complements his wits. Barely 5 feet 2 inches tall, with a wide, bulging brow and steely eyes, he sits un-movingly erect for hours on end, his head in his cupped hands, his mouth pursed in an expression of ineffable hauteur. [...] When the economic necessities of maintaining a family of four (he has a daughter, Sylvia, aged 11, and a son, Joel, of 6) threatened to overwhelm him, a fund was raised among chess lovers by the late Maurice Wertheim, a wealthy broker, which gave Reshevsky some $3,000 a year to supplement the $6,000 to $7,000 a year he makes in tournaments and exhibitions.

Thus we have: Steinitz 150 cm; Reshevsky 157.5 cm. Had Steinitz ever played against Morphy, he would have been the "David".

TN wrote on 06/19/11 at 16:05:29:
This thread is far too classic for the General Chess section. - I suppose that once the dust has settled, the reincarnation of Sir Baron Von Moderateur can transport a reincarnation of this thread to the Endgame section.

I almost fear that my practice of giving sources violates unwritten forum rules. May this thread be moved wherever it belongs. Perhaps between the two threads on "brain weight of chess-players" and "income of chess-plyers".
  
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Reply #52 - 06/20/11 at 18:31:24
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Great Reshevsky photo! 

Fllg wrote on 06/19/11 at 14:36:20:
Stefan, how about the release of a new issue of your magazine Kaissiber in the near future? I think the last appeared a year or so ago...

I've been ill since mid-2010 and can only apologize for my failure. Now I am confident that I'll be able to publish two issues, #38 and #39, in 2011, and to return to a four-issue-schedule in 2012. However, I cannot give a concrete date for the appearance of #38 yet.

When you feel sick, a site like this one can be inspiring. I learned quite a bit - how others view systems like 1.Nf3?! h6!; the amusing "Markovich Doctrine" (though personally I don't trust the Open Sicilian); that there are still people who are interested in chess books, etc.
  
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Reply #51 - 06/20/11 at 02:11:40
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I did notice it Markovich (I think), but that old picture of Reshevsky is just so golden it's hard not to post it when the opportunity is given.
  
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Reply #50 - 06/20/11 at 01:17:46
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Please note that I said, Reshevsky as an adult.  But what the heck does "on topic" mean on this part of the Forum, Smyslov Fan?  Was this on topic?

Gambit wrote on 06/18/11 at 15:55:16:
Stefan, it is said a day in Heaven can be equal to many years here on Earth. So in between 1884-1943, Morphy's spirit was in Heaven, awaiting reincarnation.


I only posted in reply.  Can I help it if understand reincarnation better than Lev does?
  

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Re: Who is the Smallest?
Reply #49 - 06/19/11 at 22:34:50
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Thx, Tricklev! I think Reshevsky wins based on your photographic evidence.

I'm gonna keep this in the general chess section for the time being. 

Most of the contributors are mature enough to stay more or less on topic, I think.
  
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Reply #48 - 06/19/11 at 22:31:28
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No wonder, Reshevsky doesn't look very tall at all.

  
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Reply #47 - 06/19/11 at 20:29:58
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I do recall someone making a crack to the effect that you have to be careful not to step on Reshevsky.
  
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Reply #46 - 06/19/11 at 19:51:17
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 06/19/11 at 19:34:42:
Bibs wrote on 06/19/11 at 07:23:45:
Glad that is settled. Which champ had the longest hair? The most shoes? 
etc


Most shoes? Probably also Morphy.  Lips Sealed


Right.  He had a dress-up thing, you know?  He especially liked that pair of red-sequined high heels.  Lordy, but he could strut.

One thing's for sure though: Reshevsky never put on a dress.  And though I don't have the data, I think he was even shorter than Morphy.
  

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Reply #45 - 06/19/11 at 19:34:42
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Bibs wrote on 06/19/11 at 07:23:45:
Glad that is settled. Which champ had the longest hair? The most shoes? 
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Most shoes? Probably also Morphy.  Lips Sealed
  
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This thread is far too classic for the General Chess section. 

I suppose that once the dust has settled, the reincarnation of Sir Baron Von Moderateur can transport a reincarnation of this thread to the Endgame section.

  

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Reply #43 - 06/19/11 at 15:52:59
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Sorry for that.  I just find this c--p about reincarnation rather irksome.  Especially when it is enunciated as if it were God's truth.

So, who was the shortest when Samuel Reshevsky is thrown into the mix?  I don't have the data, but I think he may have been the shortest of all.  As an adult, I mean.  Also in his incarnation as Samuel Reshevsky, GM, not when he was Rodan.  

@Stefan: You wouldn't dare say that if I were still King Ghidorah.

@MNb: Yes, actually, from my point of view as Ghidorah, my life as began with Godzilla regurgitating my each of my three heads back onto its respective neck, my triumphantly uttering "taimkech", un-checkmating Godzilla and a series of interesting chess moves leading back to the initial position while we moved the pawns back to their origninal ranks and replaced pieces on the board.  After that there was  series of events in Japan whereby I sucked flames out of ruined buildings while they reassembled themselves, strode "backward" (which is forward to us monsters) though smashed power lines which sparked and restored themselves to integrity, and so on back to my hatching, and finally my reflection upon all of this as an egg, which terminated at my conception and "ended" that incarnation.  But I had no memory then of my incarnation as Markovich because in this incarnation, time runs in the non-monster direction, you see?
  

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