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Karpovfan YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 8 Joined: 08/02/11	Re: Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question Reply #5 - 12/12/11 at 17:40:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	Ametanoitos wrote on 12/12/11 at 16:09:35: I always considered 10...Nf6 way too risky for my liking. Especially when 10...Qc7! is absolutely fine. Im not a caro kann expert but I think 10...Qc7 seems tricky to handle...black has to play with the king in f8... Why do you think 10...Nf6 is risky? It's a positional variation, i dont see big risks for black at first sight and blacks moves appear more natural (of course black is more passive here).


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brabo God Member Offline Welcome chessfriend Posts: 1073 Joined: 02/02/07	Re: Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question Reply #4 - 12/12/11 at 17:39:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	Ametanoitos wrote on 12/12/11 at 16:09:35: I always considered 10...Nf6 way too risky for my liking. Especially when 10...Qc7! is absolutely fine. 10...Qc7 is indeed how today most grandmasters play this position. If white plays the same as after Nf6 then black wins a crucial tempo so white must seek the complications with 11.Qg4. Anyway I found my last official victory against 10...Nf6 quite convincing. Also in that game I used the idea of Bc2 but with the small difference that black played 16...Kb8 i.s.o. 16...Rhe8.


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Karpovfan YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 8 Joined: 08/02/11	Re: Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question Reply #3 - 12/12/11 at 17:28:59	Post Tools	Print Post
	John Bartholomew wrote on 12/12/11 at 04:43:17: Hey KarpovFan. Black's treatment of 17.Bc2 in the following game seems direct and logical to me - exchanging a pair of rooks then 20...Bd4! to facilitate another relieving trade. 22...Rd6 and 23...Kd8?! look a bit weird, though. Black has a sound position with something simple like 22...Rd8, while the computer thinks 22...Qc5! is equalizing pretty easily. I think it's more promising for White to play 18.Nxd4. Then 18...a6 leads to a standard-ish position for this line. It's marginally better for White, but nothing special. My feeling is that Black's normal semi-waiting moves like 17...Kb8 or 17...Re7 don't really accomplish much in this instance, but I could be off. Hope that helps. Thank you so much John! it seems a good way to play for black


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Ametanoitos God Member Offline The road to success is under construction Posts: 1429 Location: Patras Joined: 01/04/05	Re: Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question Reply #2 - 12/12/11 at 16:09:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	I always considered 10...Nf6 way too risky for my liking. Especially when 10...Qc7! is absolutely fine.


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John Bartholomew YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 36 Location: St. Paul Joined: 06/08/11 Gender:	Re: Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question Reply #1 - 12/12/11 at 04:43:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hey KarpovFan. Black's treatment of 17.Bc2 in the following game seems direct and logical to me - exchanging a pair of rooks then 20...Bd4! to facilitate another relieving trade. 22...Rd6 and 23...Kd8?! look a bit weird, though. Black has a sound position with something simple like 22...Rd8, while the computer thinks 22...Qc5! is equalizing pretty easily. I think it's more promising for White to play 18.Nxd4. Then 18...a6 leads to a standard-ish position for this line. It's marginally better for White, but nothing special. Download game in pgn format My feeling is that Black's normal semi-waiting moves like 17...Kb8 or 17...Re7 don't really accomplish much in this instance, but I could be off. Hope that helps.


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Karpovfan YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 8 Joined: 08/02/11	Caro Kann (Smyslov System) question 12/12/11 at 01:02:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	As a subscriber of the 1.e4 ... section I sent this mail to Milos Pavlovic: ---------------------------------------------------------- "Hello Milos, Thanks for a great 1.e4 ... section on chesspublishing.com! I have a Caro Kann (Smyslov system) question for you: I watched the annotated game Dolmatov-Svetushkin, Linares, 2000 in your section. After 1e4 c6 2d4 d5 3Nc3 dxe4 4 Nxe4 Nd7 5Ng5 Ngf6 6Bd3 e6 7N1f3 Bd6 8Qe2 h6 9Ne4 Nxe4 10 Qxe4 Nf6 11Qe2 Qc7 12 Bd2 b6 13000 Bb7 14Kb1 000 15 c4 c5 16 Bc3 The8 and now 17 Bc2! was very strong and i couldnt find a good defence as black. What do you think is a good plan/line for black? An answer to the above question and comments to the line leading there would be very much appreciated Thanks in advance, " ---------------------------------------------------------- I did not receive an answer at this time, what is the opinion in the forum on this line?


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