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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #71 - 03/02/12 at 19:14:58
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BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 17:17:07:
Look at it this way - given the Bc8 is often solved via ...b6/...Bb7 in the case of the Nf3+Bd3/Be2 set-ups, it's just a Colle with a pawn on f5 and better control of the e4 square. The e5 square can generally be lived with.

Same non-answer as Vass. So I repeat:

I will not play the Stonewall as Black. Period.

BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 17:17:07:
Scherbakov did a really good job on addressing the Stonewall stuff.

Nice for him. Irrelevant for my question:

Is there anything wrong with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c6 4.e3 Nd7 idea 5.Nc3 a6 etc.?
  

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Reply #70 - 03/02/12 at 17:17:07
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Look at it this way - given the Bc8 is often solved via ...b6/...Bb7 in the case of the Nf3+Bd3/Be2 set-ups, it's just a Colle with a pawn on f5 and better control of the e4 square. The e5 square can generally be lived with.

Scherbakov did a really good job on addressing the Stonewall stuff.
  

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Reply #69 - 03/02/12 at 17:07:23
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Vass wrote on 03/02/12 at 09:55:43:
And I wonder why?..

That Bishop on c8, as I wrote in my previous post. Call it personal preference, bias or an emotional blockade, no matter how many games you post, you won't convince me. I will not play the Stonewall as Black. Period.

Yeah, I know about the Chebanenko.
Now I would really appreciate it if somebody addressed my question iso making suggestions: is there anything wrong with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c6 4.e3 Nd7 idea 5.Nc3 a6 etc.?
  

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Reply #68 - 03/02/12 at 10:48:33
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Chessexplained wrote on 03/02/12 at 10:22:50:
This Stonewall indeed seems ok for black, especially if white is comitted to Nf3 already (no g4 or Bd3,Nge2 setups).


This point is the same Bronznik makes in his Beat the Guerillas, coupled together with the point that White has closed in the dark-squared bishop. I agree, I wouldn't want to play this way against the Stonewall.

The line with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 4.e3 Nf6 5.Nf3 a6 is interesting, and also more in the same spirit as Slav stuff than the Dutch Stonewall.
  
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Reply #67 - 03/02/12 at 10:22:50
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This Stonewall indeed seems ok for black, especially if white is comitted to Nf3 already (no g4 or Bd3,Nge2 setups). If you want a less explored line, I'd recommend 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c6 4.e3 Nf6 5.Nf3 a6 (instead of main line Meran with Nbd7). It's not exactly a rare line nowadays, but seems fully playable and avoids lots of complexities of the Meran. A nice point vs. less booked up opponents is that 6.Bd3 is rather harmless.
  
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Reply #66 - 03/02/12 at 09:55:43
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MNb wrote on 03/01/12 at 21:37:26:
A related question, perhaps not worthy it's own thread. After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 the usual recommendation is 4...f5, but I don't like the Stonewall at all because of that Bishop on c8.

And I wonder why?.. This exact Stonewall formation is way better for black than the main line formation with g2-g3 and Bf1-g2. One of my recent correspondent games as the second player went like this:


And in the next tournament he tried to enforce white with:



I'm waiting for the next time when we will play this setup again..  Wink
This means I believe in this setup for black.  Cool
  
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Reply #65 - 03/02/12 at 09:46:52
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/02/12 at 02:28:42:
Is the paper different? Is it like the paper in the Attacking Chess: King's Indian Volume 2 book?

Dunno about the other book, but I'd guess it's different. Probably, because Scherbakov has written so much, the only way to get it all between the covers was to use really high-grade paper.

Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/02/12 at 02:28:42:
But the more important question: How is the book with regards to content?

It looks like very diligent work. For instance, there are whole sections which seem to be just his analysis.

As to any theoretically difficult questions, someone else will have to say, since I'm not an expert on these lines. I've only played a few games in the Marshall Gambit, mostly as White, mostly without success, one of which he actually mentions.

  

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Reply #64 - 03/02/12 at 09:44:54
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You can probably tell by the countless sample pages on amazon.co.uk, no? It looks like a tree format with a lot of depth but also a lot of explanation. No wonder it's 450 pages long.
  
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Reply #63 - 03/02/12 at 02:28:42
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 03/01/12 at 12:46:00:
Arrived this morning. My first thought:

Nice paper! Smiley


Is the paper different? Is it like the paper in the Attacking Chess: King's Indian Volume 2 book?

But the more important question: How is the book with regards to content?
  

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Reply #62 - 03/01/12 at 21:37:26
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A related question, perhaps not worthy it's own thread. After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 the usual recommendation is 4...f5, but I don't like the Stonewall at all because of that Bishop on c8. At the other hand the transposition to the Meran with 4...Nf6 is overkill.
So I wondered if 4...Nd7 and 5...a6 is a viable idea. The point is 4...Nd7 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 Bb7, which is similar to the Meran, but seems to cut down on theory.
Are there any specific objections? Like 6.b3 and 6.Qc2 ? Or a setup with Nd2 ?
  

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Reply #61 - 03/01/12 at 12:46:00
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Arrived this morning. My first thought:

Nice paper! Smiley
  

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Reply #60 - 02/29/12 at 13:02:31
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For minute it looks as if Amazon.co.uk enable you to read the entire book for free with their 'look inside' feature.  Until, that is, you realise that no matter how many hundreds of sample pages they provide, it's still not the full 400+.
  
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Reply #59 - 02/28/12 at 09:26:15
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I received a reply from Everyman this morning, confirming it is now available in the UK. My order will be in today.
  
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Reply #58 - 02/27/12 at 13:19:29
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/11/12 at 00:59:55:
When in February is this book due to be published?

I usually buy stuff from a dutch site (debestezet) and they already have it available, but when I ordered it they apologised for the mistake and said they would send it on Friday.
  
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Reply #57 - 02/11/12 at 02:43:13
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Having gotten a really good look at it as part of writing my own book, I can say without hesitation that this book is an amazing treatise on the Noteboom, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the best written to date on the subject. Readers will not be disappointed. GM Scherbakov's objectivity is refreshing, and his work is very, very thorough - improvements for both sides are teeming.

...And it will definitely advance the discussion of the main line Noteboom. It will be every bit as important to prospective white players facing it as the black players looking to take it up.

Simply put, it's a must have for anyone that faces it or uses it, and has got to be one of the early favorites for book of the year. That's my opinion, anyway.
  

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