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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #11 - 01/07/12 at 15:33:20
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fling wrote on 01/07/12 at 11:14:17:
Yeah, I'd be more afraid of the QGD exchange rather than the Slav exchange. The QGD seems to give White more chances for an edge, and also to play for a draw if suitable. But I agree, varying move orders is a good idea. Also, it is of course good and fun to play different pawn structures.


That is true in proper QGD exchange where black plays Nf6 and then white (with Nc3) exchanges on d5 and then plays Bg5. Here black has not played Nf6 and had an useful c6 move supporting d5 which allows him to play Bf5 faster. Resulting positions are unbalanced enought to give enough winning chances. More than that of exchange slav.
  
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Yeah, I'd be more afraid of the QGD exchange rather than the Slav exchange. The QGD seems to give White more chances for an edge, and also to play for a draw if suitable. But I agree, varying move orders is a good idea. Also, it is of course good and fun to play different pawn structures.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #9 - 01/07/12 at 10:10:37
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Well I'm sure they all draw in principle so whatever Smiley

Seriously though, both the 5 Bg5 semi slav and the Marshall Gambit are very dangerous, theoretical lines to face. Might be a matter of which you prefer the 'feel' of. 

The exchange Slav not really dangerous enough to be a major worry - if you're worried cf drawing lines then the 3 ed exchange after e6,d5 is probably a bit duller.

Of course if people are preparing for you probably a good idea to mix the move orders up to avoid being a static target for either set of lines.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #8 - 01/07/12 at 07:50:06
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MNb wrote on 01/06/12 at 21:51:10:
gramsci wrote on 01/06/12 at 13:35:02:
Does he recommend The Noteboom and the Meran Semi-Slav in order to avoid the Botwinnik or Moscow/Anti-Moscow lines?

The Noteboom also avoids the Slav Exchange via 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3/3.Nf3 c6.


What is better then if you want to play the Noteboom along with some Semi-Slav llines:

to allow the Slav Exchange and the Botwinnik/Moscow/Anti-Moscow
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to allow the Marshall Gambit and the Catalan?
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
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MNb wrote on 01/06/12 at 21:51:10:

The Noteboom also avoids the Slav Exchange via 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3/3.Nf3 c6.


This is an excellent point to mention. I often transpose to Semi Slav via this move order to avoid Slav exchange variation. On cxd, I go for exd with a QGD variation where Black can develop his light square bishop much easily compared to QGD exchange.
  
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gramsci wrote on 01/06/12 at 13:35:02:
Does he recommend The Noteboom and the Meran Semi-Slav in order to avoid the Botwinnik or Moscow/Anti-Moscow lines?

The Noteboom also avoids the Slav Exchange via 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3/3.Nf3 c6.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
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Alias wrote on 01/06/12 at 17:55:15:
There are various lines where white plays early e3, not allowing a Noteboom proper. These could easily turn into semi slavs.


Or to Dutch Stonewall if black plays ...f5. I play this way and prefer the positions over the usual stonewall where white has played g3 compared to e3 here.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
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There are various lines where white plays early e3, not allowing a Noteboom proper. These could easily turn into semi slavs.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #3 - 01/06/12 at 15:05:04
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 01/06/12 at 13:51:28:
gramsci wrote on 01/06/12 at 13:35:02:
Does he recommend The Noteboom and the Meran Semi-Slav in order to avoid the Botwinnik or Moscow/Anti-Moscow lines?


The Noteboom is a different complex – it's based on d5/e6/c6 (Triangle) rather than d5/c6/Nf6/e6 (Semi-Slav). The Botvinnik doesn't come into it because Black doesn't play ...Nf6 until later (if at all). Obviously if White plays an early e2-e3 (i.e. before ...d5xc4) Black could go into the Meran if he wanted – or he could play something else (such as ...f7-f5).

So what's the meaning of the title "The Triangle System: Noteboom, Marshall Gambit and other Semi-Slav Triangle lines"? If you're not going to avoid the Botwinnik or the Anti-Moscow why do you need to play Semi-Slav lines when aiming for the Noteboom?
  
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gramsci wrote on 01/06/12 at 13:35:02:
Does he recommend The Noteboom and the Meran Semi-Slav in order to avoid the Botwinnik or Moscow/Anti-Moscow lines?


The Noteboom is a different complex – it's based on d5/e6/c6 (Triangle) rather than d5/c6/Nf6/e6 (Semi-Slav). The Botvinnik doesn't come into it because Black doesn't play ...Nf6 until later (if at all). Obviously if White plays an early e2-e3 (i.e. before ...d5xc4) Black could go into the Meran if he wanted – or he could play something else (such as ...f7-f5).
  
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Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
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Saw this some time back but now it is official....something we were waiting for long.

The Triangle System: Noteboom, Marshall Gambit and other Semi-Slav Triangle lines

by Ruslan Scherbakov

◦Published: February 2012 EU, April 2012 US
◦320 pages

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/The_Triangle_System%3A_Noteboom%2C_Mars...

Grandmaster Ruslan Scherbakov presents an opening system for Black based on the Semi-Slav Triangle, an ambitious way to fight the ever-popular Queen's Gambit. Black’s weapons include the Noteboom Variation – a dynamic counterattack which takes White out of his comfort zone and offers Black the chance to dictate the game from the outset. Scherbakov also examines options for Black against the aggressive Semi-Slav Marshall Gambit, as well as White's quieter tries such as the Exchange Variation, various defences of the c4-pawn and the Catalan approach. Scherbakov has over 20 years of experience in studying and playing these opening variations, which have been tried and tested successfully at grandmaster level and are specially designed for players who want to challenge White in the opening.

◦Written by a renowned Semi-Slav Triangle expert
◦Packed with new ideas and critical analysis
◦Explains typical plans and tactics for both sides



  
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