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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #86 - 03/05/12 at 09:47:09
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It feels to my non-initiated hands identical to Quality Chess paper. It feels like a much more quality product than the move by move series (I have the Slav and Nimzo books), double column, smaller diagrams, etc. Of course this is all quite beside the point. And there is something that I think I've seen mostly in Gambit books, but maybe also in some QC/EC books: when there's a crossroads, the book gives you the page numbers (e.g. A Rb1 pg 15, B Rc1 pg 18, C Ra2!? pg 19).
  
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Reply #85 - 03/05/12 at 09:14:08
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What is the difference with this book's paper and other books? Is the paper like the new Quality Chess paper? I still do not quite understand. 

I looked at the excerpt, and some pages look like the analysis is so dense that it might take more than three hours per page to read, which is not a bad thing. It is good to see multiple choices in a repertoire book as well.
  

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Reply #84 - 03/05/12 at 08:52:48
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I notice he sometimes offers as many as three different lines for Black, albeit perhaps not in White sidelines. I, for one, will surely play 4 .. Bb4 to avoid the Marshall. Brrrr... (But I looked at his lines and compared with the John Cox d4 book and looks like Scherbakov found a good way against all tries - well that was to be expected seeing as the d4 book had the Marshall covered in less than 10 pages more than 5 years ago - in fact credit to the old book as there are still plenty of unclear positions with a White initiative). And players who hate that turnip on c8 in the Stonewall rest assured, he offers non-Stonewall setups too. I think in all lines but I didn't check the book *that* deeply.

And at the risk of sounding like a superficial person, I agree that the paper is great!
  
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Reply #83 - 03/05/12 at 01:15:33
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I ordered my copy. Anyone else who has the book, how do you find the repertoire?
  

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Reply #82 - 03/04/12 at 21:52:09
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Is this same line also given in Scherbakov's book?
  

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Reply #81 - 03/04/12 at 20:55:25
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Well, it certainly is in IM Bronznik's Beating the Guerrilla's. According to him 12...Ne4 is better than 12...Nbd7.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #80 - 03/04/12 at 00:59:29
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Is Avrukh's recommendation considered in the book? I think it would be 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 e6 4. e3 f5.
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Reply #79 - 03/03/12 at 15:08:36
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Vass wrote on 03/02/12 at 22:54:21:
Maybe because the good correspondent players never play such opening moves..who knows?!  Roll Eyes

That certainly can't be ruled out. Also thanks.
  

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Reply #78 - 03/03/12 at 00:38:47
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I am considering buying this book since the opening sounds interesting. And I also need a good book for a long train ride soon.
  

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Reply #77 - 03/02/12 at 22:54:21
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I respect your opinion. 4...Nd7 and 5...a6 is an interesting idea. But, my choice as the first player could be:

1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 e6 4.e3 Nd7 5.Bd3!? (my mark) and if 5...dxc4 6.Bxc4 b5 7.Bd3 a6 8.a4!? (or 8.0-0 Bb7 9.a4!?) or similar...trying to secure c4-square for my queen's knight.. It's a common idea in such positions with early b7-b5 while the white knight is still on b1. That's why most of the players in this exact position play 5...Ngf6 instead of 5...dxc4 accepting the Meran as BPaulsen already stated. As for the other option (though not mentioned here) 5...Bd6 I like the straight 6.e4!? (as in Jankovic-Hulak, Sibenik CRO-cht, 2007).
In addition, I'm sorry I couldn't find some high-class correspondent chess games with 4...Nd7 and 5....a6 (in response to 5.Nbc3) though I have more than fifteen correspondent chess databases (ICCF, IECG, IECC, FICGS, OM Corr, Mega Corr, Ultra Corr, Echecs Email, Chess OK Corr, Best Logic...and alike). Maybe because the good correspondent players never play such opening moves..who knows?!  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #76 - 03/02/12 at 21:40:43
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BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 19:38:30:
Preference? Perhaps.

No, that only applies to me. I play chess for fun and I have a limited taste. Thanks for your answer. That was the kind I was looking for.

BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 19:38:30:
But also the play is dictated to white rather than the opposite being the case.

Yes. I do my best to prevent my subjevity from oppressing objectivity and to find a nice equilibrium.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #75 - 03/02/12 at 21:21:25
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 03/02/12 at 21:06:29:
Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/02/12 at 20:00:58:
Is the book heavy? How long is it from cover to cover? Just asking because I want to know for shipping purposes. And I saw somewhere in the introduction that the repertoire is objective. Do you find it that way?


Approx weight (using kitchen scales): 750g
Dimensions (if that's what you mean by long): 24x17x2 cm
Objective: yes — as far as I can tell, given that I don't really know much about these lines


Thanks.

I meant objective as in do some lines in the book have final evaluations of +=, or do most of the lines in the book he finds a route to equalisation?
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #74 - 03/02/12 at 21:06:29
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/02/12 at 20:00:58:
Is the book heavy? How long is it from cover to cover? Just asking because I want to know for shipping purposes. And I saw somewhere in the introduction that the repertoire is objective. Do you find it that way?


Approx weight (using kitchen scales): 750g
Dimensions (if that's what you mean by long): 24x17x2 cm
Objective: yes — as far as I can tell, given that I don't really know much about these lines
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #73 - 03/02/12 at 20:00:58
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 03/01/12 at 12:46:00:
Arrived this morning. My first thought:

Nice paper! Smiley


Is the book heavy? How long is it from cover to cover? Just asking because I want to know for shipping purposes. And I saw somewhere in the introduction that the repertoire is objective. Do you find it that way?
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #72 - 03/02/12 at 19:38:30
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MNb wrote on 03/02/12 at 19:14:58:
BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 17:17:07:
Look at it this way - given the Bc8 is often solved via ...b6/...Bb7 in the case of the Nf3+Bd3/Be2 set-ups, it's just a Colle with a pawn on f5 and better control of the e4 square. The e5 square can generally be lived with.

Same non-answer as Vass. So I repeat:

I will not play the Stonewall as Black. Period.

BPaulsen wrote on 03/02/12 at 17:17:07:
Scherbakov did a really good job on addressing the Stonewall stuff.

Nice for him. Irrelevant for my question:

Is there anything wrong with 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c6 4.e3 Nd7 idea 5.Nc3 a6 etc.?


5.Nc3 Nf6 just heading directly into the Meran would make more sense, unless you have some particular liking for that very passive Chebanenko, because that's what 5.Nc3 a6 ultimately will transpose into.

5.b3 would be the more typical treatment for the solid/quiet type that aim to retain flexibility should black opt for a Semi-Slav or Stonewall set up. If you don't mind defending the black cause in those positions where you'll be hit with the Ne5+f4 ideas and are willing to prepare them - have at it. They're definitely not fatal, but I can't say they're much fun for the black cause, either. Note that due to your move order you would lose out on stuff like 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c6 4.e3 Nf6 5.b3 (5.Nbd2 limits white to set-ups involving Nd2 over Nc3) c5!?, noted previously on here by Markovich, and since picked up in practice by numerous GMs with good results.

Refusing to play the Stonewall at all just makes no sense to me. If something is good and it works, then it's good and it works. Why avoid it and make life harder on yourself than it otherwise needs to be? This isn't a criticism, I am honestly wondering.

Struck with defending the Slav Stonewall or the attempts by white to avoid the Meran with b3/Nbd2 and the like I would undoubtedly choose the former. Preference? Perhaps. But also the play is dictated to white rather than the opposite being the case.

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