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Question: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand Title Match?


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Anand by 2 or more 36 (37.1%) Gelfand by 2 or more 1 (1.0%) Anand by 1 41 (42.3%) Gelfand by 1 9 (9.3%) Anand in a Tie-break 4 (4.1%) Gelfand in a Tie-break 5 (5.2%) The match will be cancelled. 1 (1.0%) Total votes: 97 « Last Modified by: Smyslov_Fan on: 05/08/12 at 15:52:16 »

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GeneM Senior Member Offline Tournament winner gets two fun filled knights! Posts: 303 Location: near Seattle WA USA Joined: 01/12/08	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #38 - 05/12/12 at 04:07:10	Post Tools	Print Post
	trw wrote on 05/10/12 at 05:27:12: Edit: found it http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1297106328/225 [quote author=5354504752083D0 link=1297106328/231#231 date=1306340135] Would anyone consider Gelfand a legitimate WC (i.e. Kasparov, Karpov etc.) if he beat Anand in a 12 game match? Gelfand won the right to challenge so long ago that it makes harder to get excited about this match. As Kasparov recently noted, this is the first WCChamp match in a long time where the challenger is clearly not the best nor the second best player. But it is not Gelfand's fault that Aronian lost in the short match format. And it is not Gelfand's fault that Carlsen dropped out.

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Gilchrist is a legend God Member Offline Posts: 1039 Location: Manchester, UK Joined: 03/02/10	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #37 - 05/12/12 at 00:08:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	I thought Gelfand played the Grünfeld regularly? Anyway I hope there are more Grünfelds, it has now become my most favourite opening, even more than the Najdorf. But I only want to know, which opening did you expect? And also, there are the two volumes on the Grünfeld written by his fellow countryman Avrukh, so if I were Gelfand I would not hesitate to play the Grünfeld

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MartinC God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 2110 Joined: 07/24/06	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #36 - 05/11/12 at 16:19:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Probably a bit surprised, but there's also I think a tendency to see if the person new to WC matches is going to give you a present of the first game - it has after all happened enough times! - thus playing something reasonably testing but not super critical. Like that exchange slav that Kramnik tried in game 1 vs Anand.


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #35 - 05/11/12 at 15:54:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kazzy wrote on 05/11/12 at 14:55:56: Smyslov_Fan wrote on 05/11/12 at 14:24:29: Gelfand surprised just about everyone by choosing the Grunfeld in game one. He's never played the Black side of the Grunfeld in a serious game before. I don't think he really surprised Anand that much. Just take a look at his seconds: Eljanov, Rodshtein and Huzman. All well-known Grünfeld-experts. It could well be that Avrukh is also part of his team. Nigel Short said during the game that in order to receive the Israeli passport, you have to play the Grünfeld. It really seems that everyone in Israel is playing the Grünfeld. Well I certainly hope he was surprised, because if this was his major preparation it doesnt bode well for Anand

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2924 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #34 - 05/11/12 at 15:36:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Bit of a side-line that Bb5+ line Anand played isn't it? Or is this the new thing against the Gruenfeld? If Gruenfeld holds up maybe Anand will go back to the good ol 1.e4


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Kazzy YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 15 Joined: 06/08/11	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #33 - 05/11/12 at 14:55:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 05/11/12 at 14:24:29: Gelfand surprised just about everyone by choosing the Grunfeld in game one. He's never played the Black side of the Grunfeld in a serious game before. I don't think he really surprised Anand that much. Just take a look at his seconds: Eljanov, Rodshtein and Huzman. All well-known Grünfeld-experts. It could well be that Avrukh is also part of his team. Nigel Short said during the game that in order to receive the Israeli passport, you have to play the Grünfeld. It really seems that everyone in Israel is playing the Grünfeld.


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #32 - 05/11/12 at 14:24:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Gelfand surprised just about everyone by choosing the Grunfeld in game one. He's never played the Black side of the Grunfeld in a serious game before. He managed to get an equal position and a draw by move 24!


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #31 - 05/11/12 at 14:22:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	I always watch the games on ICC. The GM commentary there is excellent even if some of the other kibitzes are .. off-topic.


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Fromper Senior Member Offline GrandPatzer Posts: 378 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Joined: 03/12/10 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #30 - 05/11/12 at 13:21:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Vass wrote on 05/08/12 at 17:29:16: Fromper wrote on 05/08/12 at 17:10:19: What web sites are going to be showing the games as they happen? Maybe this one: http://www.anand-gelfand.com/ Nope. Don't see the game as it's happening, unless I'm looking in the wrong place. But clicking on "Game 1" doesn't take me to a live game. It looks like just a holding spot where they'll put the games after they're over. I found live coverage at these sites: http://moscow2012.fide.com/en/live?g=20120511 http://www.chessdom.com/anand-gelfand-game-1-live/ Anyone have recommendations for sites to watch the games based on the quality of the commentary?

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ANDREW BRETT God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 622 Joined: 07/07/06	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #29 - 05/10/12 at 18:53:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	The Semi-Slav could be played by both !! We might get 4 e3 v the Slav, Nimzo /QGD are likely. If we're lucky a Najdorf .


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battleangel Ex Member	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #28 - 05/10/12 at 18:31:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	Gelfand Petroff vs. 1.e4 and semi-slav vs. closed? Gelfand will not play 1.e4, probably mostly 1.d4 with some 1.Nf3 in between ... I guess Anand will play both 1.e4 and 1.d4, but 1.d4 will dominate due to the petroff ... I expect Semislav or Queen's Gambit declined or Gruenfeld from Anand, and against e4 either the closed spanish or spanish with Bc5 or the najdorf ...


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #27 - 05/10/12 at 17:06:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	For me, a more interesting discussion would turn around the question of what openings each player will use as White and Black. I've already posted my predictions of their choice of openings.


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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #26 - 05/10/12 at 16:36:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: ... Anand has won everything and just doesn't have the motivation, he has not played really good chess in the last 2 years... Well, we cannot really assess that as he may be hiding his preparation and also saving up energy. The same thing was happening in tournaments before his match with Topalov. But during the match he showed to be well prepared.

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battleangel Ex Member	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #25 - 05/10/12 at 15:40:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	gelfand is a worthy challenger, he qualified in the k.o. knockout where the likes of aronian, topalov, grishuk, etc. took part in ... also he placed 2nd in the wch tournament that anand won ... he has been a top player a decade ago ... I think Gelfand must play his best chess in this match tomorrow, because he will never get the chance again to aim at the title. Because tbh. the era of Carlsen/Aronian has begun right now, and I guess one of these two will be the sucessor ... Gelfand must take his chance now or he will be forgotten ... Anand has won everything and just doesn't have the motivation, he has not played really good chess in the last 2 years, in my very honest opinion this match is a match between almost 2 equally strong opponents ... if Gelfand is really highly motivated, he might even have an edge!


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KampongBoy YaBB Newbies Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 32 Location: Vancouver Joined: 10/18/04 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #24 - 05/10/12 at 13:22:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	I see Anand by four and the end of any future Gelfand aspirations for the title.


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