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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #10 - 06/20/12 at 00:15:00
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I suggest you play the Dutch lines with 6.e3.  

There's a lot less theory to know than in the Central lines and the play is more natural.  After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.Bxc4 Bb4 8.0-0 0-0 you can choose between 9.Qe2 and the familiar 9.Nh4.  

Vigorito's Chess Explained Main Line Slav has a good explanation of these lines. 
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #9 - 06/14/12 at 21:51:53
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To win at chess, you must be willing to create your own theory.

6.Ne5 was recommended by Schandorff in Playing the Queen's Gambit. You don't have to follow these recommendations. You will have to think for yourself at some point in almost every game though. Don't worry about whether a position is equal, worry about whether you know how to play the resulting positions.

If you have your own active plans in the main-line Slav, you will be able to face your opponent with confidence. That's really all you can ask of an opening.
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #8 - 06/14/12 at 18:32:47
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Goodness knows about any of the lines after 6 Ne5. 

But, quite importantly, the precise theoretical evaluation isn't important. There's more than enough to have supported a ton of very high level GM games so self evidently very playable for a win at any level.
(The endgame variation in particular surely isn't the sort of thing that computers can 'kill'?)

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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #7 - 06/14/12 at 17:25:02
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The Kaufman Repertoire for Black and White might be the book you're looking for. Certainly a critical main line repertoire with 4.Nc3, plus the coverage of the back-up line 4.Qc2 isn't bad either.
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #6 - 06/14/12 at 16:16:47
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 06/14/12 at 15:40:02:
The Slav does involve a tremendous amount of theory. I guess I was lucky in that I started playing it seriously just a couple years before it became high fashion among the GM elites so I was able to keep up with the theory in my pet lines.

As White, most GMs think 1d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.Ne5 is the sharpest and best way to play the mainline Slav

That means that you will probably have to play 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 lines against the Semi-Slav and other Queen's Gambit lines. (I stand firmly on the side that the Slav and Semi-Slav are part of the Queen's Gambit discussion from another thread.)

Against 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 a6, the Chebanenko, you have a wider choice. For me, the two main continuations are 5.c5 and 5.a4 e6 6.Bg5. 

You'll have to follow the games of the big boys to keep up in all of these lines. But since that's one of the joys of chess rather than a chore, I don't see that as a negative at all.

If you want to play main lines, you will have to study chess. If you want to succeed in the long run, you will pretty much have to play main lines. So, bite the bullet and enjoy!

Thanks for this Smyslov-fan. Wasn't Smyslov a great payer indeed.

I've already done some serious work on the Semi-Slav and go for 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bf6: Qf6: 7.Qc2 with e4. 
Against the a6 Slav I go for 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 a6 5.Bg5!? Ne4 6.Bf4 Nc3: 7.bc3: dc4: 8.e3 b5 9.Ne5!? a razor sharp interesting sideline.
But against the Slav accepted I'm a bit at a loss. After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dc4 5.a4 Bf5 I have been playing 6.Nh4 for a long time but I don't like it any more in particular after 6. ... Bg4.
I looked at 6.Ne5 but black has several equalizing lines there by the looks of it starting with Pert's 6. ... Nbd7 7.Nc4: Nb6!? The piece sac after 6. ... e6 7.f3 Bb4 8.e4 also seems to lead to equality nowadays?
Can you guys recommend a good recent book for white about the Slav?
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #5 - 06/14/12 at 15:40:02
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The Slav does involve a tremendous amount of theory. I guess I was lucky in that I started playing it seriously just a couple years before it became high fashion among the GM elites so I was able to keep up with the theory in my pet lines.

As White, most GMs think 1d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.Ne5 is the sharpest and best way to play the mainline Slav

That means that you will probably have to play 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 lines against the Semi-Slav and other Queen's Gambit lines. (I stand firmly on the side that the Slav and Semi-Slav are part of the Queen's Gambit discussion from another thread.)

Against 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 a6, the Chebanenko, you have a wider choice. For me, the two main continuations are 5.c5 and 5.a4 e6 6.Bg5. 

You'll have to follow the games of the big boys to keep up in all of these lines. But since that's one of the joys of chess rather than a chore, I don't see that as a negative at all.

If you want to play main lines, you will have to study chess. If you want to succeed in the long run, you will pretty much have to play main lines. So, bite the bullet and enjoy!
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #4 - 06/14/12 at 15:18:59
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ErictheRed wrote on 06/14/12 at 14:31:54:
It depends on what you want to play against the Semi-Slav, but I'd recommend 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3.  I think Watson recommends this in his new White repertoire book but I haven't seen the book yet.


Thanks for this - so what do you recommend against 4. ... Bf5, 4. ... e6, 4. ... a6? 
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #3 - 06/14/12 at 14:31:54
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It depends on what you want to play against the Semi-Slav, but I'd recommend 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3.  I think Watson recommends this in his new White repertoire book but I haven't seen the book yet.
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #2 - 06/14/12 at 08:54:39
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5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.a5 perhaps. If you meet 4...e6 and 4...a6 with 5.e3 then 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 is a logical move order.
  
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Re: What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
Reply #1 - 06/14/12 at 08:11:14
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3.Nc3
  
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What to play as white against the Slav accepted?
06/14/12 at 06:49:10
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Must say I'm at a loss now what to play against the Slav accepted (1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dc4:). The main lines are oceans of theory and all very doable for black, and some sidelines I've looked at are easy to meet and might even give black the advantage. Do you guys have any suggestions of a good sideline against the Slav accepted?
  
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