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Re: C33: Carlsen plays the Mason
Reply #4 - 08/18/12 at 18:02:18
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brabo wrote on 08/18/12 at 14:00:00:
Neither do i think that Carlsen cared about the real theoretical value of the Mason when he chose the opening. Carlsen knows from himself that even in a lost opening, he still can fight back in a blitzgame against a human opponent.


But equally someone like Carlsen doesn't play 4 Ke2 in the opening unless he has an idea what to do next.
  

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Re: C33: Carlsen plays the Mason
Reply #3 - 08/18/12 at 14:00:00
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You see in magazines more and more rapid and even blitzgames taken serious and analyzed. I find this a sad evolution as I don't see what value this brings.

Carlsen played 1.a4 against Radjabov in the final blitzworldchampionship. I don't think he has thought for one second on the real theoretical value of 1.a4. Neither do i think that Carlsen cared about the real theoretical value of the Mason when he chose the opening. Carlsen knows from himself that even in a lost opening, he still can fight back in a blitzgame against a human opponent.

Besides I doubt many (top)grandmasters follow chesspubforum and are aware about what we amateurs are here discussing.
  
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Re: C33: Carlsen plays the Mason
Reply #2 - 08/18/12 at 00:01:11
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SWJediknight wrote on 08/17/12 at 19:39:56:
My knowledge of the current theory is that after 3...Qh4+ 4.Ke2, the old main line 4...d5 is fine for White, but 4...Qe7 is tricky and 4...Ne7, taking the sting out of Nd5 ideas, is probably best of all.  I remember agreeing with Brabo in a previous debate that 4...Ne7 gave Black an edge, so it would've been interesting to see what Carlsen's idea was against it.  

Interesting at any rate to see a top GM play the Mason, even though it was in a blitz game!

An edge? The Mason is a corspe after 3...Qh4+ 4.Ke2 Ne7. No more and no less. Try http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208413606/0
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I'm reminded again of something Short wrote recently, approximately "The biggest fallacy in chess is the quasi-religious belief in the primacy of the opening."
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Re: C33: Carlsen plays the Mason
Reply #1 - 08/17/12 at 19:39:56
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My knowledge of the current theory is that after 3...Qh4+ 4.Ke2, the old main line 4...d5 is fine for White, but 4...Qe7 is tricky and 4...Ne7, taking the sting out of Nd5 ideas, is probably best of all.  I remember agreeing with Brabo in a previous debate that 4...Ne7 gave Black an edge, so it would've been interesting to see what Carlsen's idea was against it.  

Interesting at any rate to see a top GM play the Mason, even though it was in a blitz game!
  
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C33: Carlsen plays the Mason
08/16/12 at 15:07:21
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Damn. I'd really have liked to see what Carlsen was intending after 3...Qh4+. If only Jumabayev hadn't chickened out...
  

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