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Reply #59 - 12/23/13 at 00:36:34
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I don't know if Everyman intends to do that or not. You would have to e-mail them.
  
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Reply #58 - 12/22/13 at 21:07:07
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BPaulsen wrote on 12/22/13 at 18:58:01:

I thought only 7.Bd3 good for an edge for concrete reasons, mostly just stopping Lasker's Defense transpositions.


Then I agree with you and what I've always thought was conventional wisom/theory here.  All of my old sources, as well as Schandorff, give 7.Bd3! as best, despite discussions in other threads.

Will the book be released in any electronic format that you're aware of?  I'll be in Brazil for a couple of months, I think.
  
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Reply #57 - 12/22/13 at 18:58:01
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ErictheRed wrote on 12/22/13 at 14:44:50:
Regarding 5...Be7, most theoretical works I've seen recommend 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3, as we've discussed elsewhere on the forum.  7.Qc2 does score much better.

Anyhow in my last tournament I faced this line and chose 7.Qc2, planning on castling queenside, when my opponent played 7...b6.  I chose 8.cxd5, expecting an easy plus, but after 8...cxd5! (a move that would have been hard for me to play), I didn't really get much.  Maybe White was microscopically better after 9.Bd3 h6 10.Bf4 Ba6, but it wasn't anything to write home about.  And Black may have better 10th moves, too.

Sooo...?  I may just stick with 7.Bd3 in the future, but I'm curious to see what Bryan's book says about this.  I guess 8.cxd5 is a mistake as I don't see any way White can hope for anything after that.  I'm travelling in Brazil but would buy an electronic copy if one were available.  So what, 8.Rd1, 8.0-0-0, 8.Be2?  Nothing looks like the large advantage that people on the forum seem to expect.  Maybe 8.Bd3 hoping for 8...h6 9.h4!? is a way to try to punish Black, but even here just 9...Bb7, among other moves (9...dxc4, 9...Nbd7) looks totally fine for him. 

I thought only 7.Bd3 good for an edge for concrete reasons, mostly just stopping Lasker's Defense transpositions.
  
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Reply #56 - 12/22/13 at 18:53:48
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ANDREW BRETT wrote on 12/22/13 at 09:27:54:
Just got a copy of this - nice job Bryan - it's very clear to read , up to date and analyses the key lines rather than overwhelms you with game referrals. What I couldn't work out was whether you play this for white or black !
Any idea when your 1nf3 project will reach fruition.


Play 1.Nf3 is slow right now. It will get finished in time, that's all I can say. I am trying to keep it concise, informative, theoretically important, and readable. This one is a labor of love, and even if others end up not liking it I want to be able to say I spared no effort. As for the Semi-Slav with 5.Bg5, the white side. Not that I have any reason to avoid playing black. If you didn't detect bias, then I will take that as a good sign. I am supposed to do updates for the book as theoretically important games become available to me, I think, and there are already a couple candidates towards that end. By the way, thank you for buying my book! You are the first person I know of that has.
  
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Reply #55 - 12/22/13 at 14:44:50
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Regarding 5...Be7, most theoretical works I've seen recommend 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3, as we've discussed elsewhere on the forum.  7.Qc2 does score much better.

Anyhow in my last tournament I faced this line and chose 7.Qc2, planning on castling queenside, when my opponent played 7...b6.  I chose 8.cxd5, expecting an easy plus, but after 8...cxd5! (a move that would have been hard for me to play), I didn't really get much.  Maybe White was microscopically better after 9.Bd3 h6 10.Bf4 Ba6, but it wasn't anything to write home about.  And Black may have better 10th moves, too.

Sooo...?  I may just stick with 7.Bd3 in the future, but I'm curious to see what Bryan's book says about this.  I guess 8.cxd5 is a mistake as I don't see any way White can hope for anything after that.  I'm travelling in Brazil but would buy an electronic copy if one were available.  So what, 8.Rd1, 8.0-0-0, 8.Be2?  Nothing looks like the large advantage that people on the forum seem to expect.  Maybe 8.Bd3 hoping for 8...h6 9.h4!? is a way to try to punish Black, but even here just 9...Bb7, among other moves (9...dxc4, 9...Nbd7) looks totally fine for him.
  
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Reply #54 - 12/22/13 at 09:27:54
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Just got a copy of this - nice job Bryan - it's very clear to read , up to date and analyses the key lines rather than overwhelms you with game referrals. What I couldn't work out was whether you play this for white or black !
Any idea when your 1nf3 project will reach fruition.

  
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Reply #53 - 12/14/13 at 16:30:18
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Eh... That game is off in a sideline. Kramnik didn't challenge Aronian in the traditionally problematic continuation. His h4 was... unusual.
  
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Reply #52 - 12/14/13 at 09:31:27
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I think this game may be relevant to why Aronian played Be7. It's Rybka and a king walk all the way down to d3 !?

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1717098 Smiley

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Be7 11. exf6 Bxf6 12. Bxf6 Qxf6 13. g3 Bb7 14. Bg2 Na6 15. a4 O-O-O 16. axb5 cxb5 17. Bxb7 Kxb7 18. Nxb5 Nb4 19. Kf1 Nd3 20. Rxa7 Kb6 21. Qd2 Kxb5 22. Qa5 Kc6 23. f4 Rc8 24. Qa6 Kd5 25. Rd7 Ke4 26. Qb7 Ke3 27. Qg2 Nxf4 28. Qf2 Ke4 29. Qe1 Kd3 30. Qd1 Ke4 31. Qe1 Kd3 32. Qd1 Ke4 33. Qe1
I have no idea whether this is sound !!
  
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Reply #51 - 12/09/13 at 01:38:59
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I think it's this one:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1738069
  
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Reply #50 - 12/09/13 at 01:05:44
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Hi all
Could someone post a link to the game please? 
Helps Bryan (and well done on your book!), helps all. 
Some (including me) not too familiar with the line, so not too sure the preceding moves leading to '10...Be7'.

Thank you!

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Reply #49 - 12/09/13 at 00:12:35
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kylemeister wrote on 12/08/13 at 20:36:24:
Aronian did play 10...Be7 against Kramnik a couple of weeks ago.



I looked at that game ...seems to me that Kramnik was caught out - White simply plays a4 and he has a better game.
  
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Reply #48 - 12/08/13 at 21:22:40
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I will have to look for it. I haven't been paying attention to games outside of the lines I am currently working on. If it's in the Botvinnik, then my opinion of it wasn't good. I'd have to see if something important happened.
  
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Reply #47 - 12/08/13 at 20:36:24
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Aronian did play 10...Be7 against Kramnik a couple of weeks ago.
  
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Reply #46 - 12/08/13 at 20:28:53
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Maybe he means Kramnik - Morozevich, Tal Memorial 2012?  In any case when I think of "dubious ...Be7 line" I think of 10...Be7 in the Botvinnik, not 5...Be7. 
  
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Reply #45 - 12/08/13 at 17:31:32
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ANDREW BRETT wrote on 12/08/13 at 09:22:47:
Bryan - any thoughts on Kramnik v Aronian which was a Be7 line that I thought was regarded as dubious.
Do you know when the downloadable version of your book will be out.

I don't know the game you are talking about at this time. The only recent Kramnik-Aronian game of note I am aware of in the Semi-Slav is the one I look at in the book. Is it recently played? What were the opening moves? In the book I analyzed 5...Be7 more seriously than some people might think it deserves. I thought 5...h6 6.Bh4 Be7 to be a serious equalizing try that just barely falls short, but is perhaps worth knowing if someone wanted to take a break from the Anti-Moscow. As for the e-book version I have no idea. That is up to Everyman.
  
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