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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #7 - 10/09/12 at 01:17:29
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Bibs wrote on 09/14/12 at 13:41:43:
It's called The Bertie.
Different road to hedgehogs.
Not for hedgehogs, as then they may not get run over as much. Which surely is their point.


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Reply #6 - 10/09/12 at 00:00:49
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MartinC wrote on 10/08/12 at 10:56:11:
Brief mentions in the sundry white Sicillian repitoire books is I imagine all the literature that it has and is likely to ever have.



'Sicilian'
'repertoire'

I had a look in my library.
Good coverage in:
Sizilianisch im Geiste des Igels
pp. 273-297

An incredibly good book actually. Loads of explanation, plenty of analysis.

Clearly Zeller is one of those authors who really takes time to plan how to put a book together before starting to write it. Top class.

Covers Sicilian a6, b6, d6 e6 positions.
So, Schev, Kan type things. Some hedgehoggy stuff, with c4, some without c4.

And yes, he does indicate that 6. Bg5 is the way to go versus 2...b6. Forwards, get chopping.
  
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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #5 - 10/08/12 at 10:56:11
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Brief mentions in the sundry white Sicillian repitoire books is I imagine all the literature that it has and is likely to ever have.

Its not like it loses by force or anything, but there simply isn't any obvious compensating gain for the self denial of even the option of an early b5. So no compelling reason for black to investigate it really.
(At least say 2..a6 has its 'trap' associated.).
  
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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #4 - 10/07/12 at 22:46:04
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Bresando wrote on 09/14/12 at 14:29:43:
I think this has recently been played at a fairly high level, maybe  by Kamsky during the last US championship?

Yes, this is the game:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1665657

According to chessgames it's the "Katalimov Variation".


I think White should have played 6. Bg5, 6. Bf4 (threatening Nb5/disallowing e6) or 6. Nxc6 (followed with e5)... and there is no Qa5/Qb6 because of b6. As it happens, Black ends up with an extra tempo, and his dark-squared bishop gets away with a lot.
  

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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #3 - 09/14/12 at 15:47:51
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Thank you guys!
This is indeed so-called Katalimov variation, although I didn't found any books about this system. I think white should be better with simple developing moves.
  

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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #2 - 09/14/12 at 14:29:43
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I think this has recently been played at a fairly high level, maybe  by Kamsky during the last US championship?

Yes, this is the game:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1665657

According to chessgames it's the "Katalimov Variation".
  
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Re: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
Reply #1 - 09/14/12 at 13:41:43
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It's called The Bertie.
Different road to hedgehogs.
Not for hedgehogs, as then they may not get run over as much. Which surely is their point.
  
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1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 !?
09/14/12 at 11:46:40
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Hi guys!
This 2..b6 move was played against me couple of time on the internet. Does it have any name? Or maybe any literature about it is available?

I think this is not such a great idea to develop your queenside before kingside in such open positions like in silician defence. Nevertheles, variation is quite interesting in blitz games.
  

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