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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #237 - 03/18/13 at 10:23:20
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FischerTal wrote on 03/18/13 at 08:34:24:
This last result is very interesting in that it shows it is possible to cheat at Rapidplay tempo at high level, however he is doing it.

Previously I had thought of rapidplay success as evidence against suspicious players being cheats, now will have to reconsider that.

I completely dont understand how this is going to work at Rapid Chess. Recieving signals via the skin looks possible, but how on earth do you send your moves - you would have to tip on something (under your skin?) and that should be obvious. Just think that you need to act fast not to lose on time.

This guy is either a chess genius or a cheating genius. Shocked
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #236 - 03/18/13 at 08:34:24
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This last result is very interesting in that it shows it is possible to cheat at Rapidplay tempo at high level, however he is doing it.

Previously I had thought of rapidplay success as evidence against suspicious players being cheats, now will have to reconsider that.
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #235 - 03/18/13 at 07:28:39
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The saga continues:

XXIII MEMORIAL PAZ DE ZIGANDA J.L. GOROSTIDI OROIGARRIA (rapid chess)

http://chess-results.com/tnr93301.aspx?art=1&rd=9&lan=2&fedb=SRB&turdet=YES&flag...

Información de jugadores:

Nombre      IVANOV Borislav
Ranking inicial      22
Elo      2303
Elo nacional      0
Elo internacional      2303
Performance      2696
FIDE elo +/-      67.3
Puntos      8
Puesto      1
Federación      BUL
Código nacional      0
Código FIDE      2903741


8 points out of 9 - 1st place
Elo: 2303
Performance: 2696  Shocked

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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #234 - 02/21/13 at 16:55:37
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nobody needs to follow engine for the best choice to cheat. 
if you have access to engine you can try different moves/ ideas  ( esp. if you are rated 2000+) and just make sure that engine shows + eval. 99 out of 100 opponents will eventual make a small mistake, then another one. And your moves will never be pegged as " computer moves" You can also avoid obvious " fritzy " moves as Anand said for that German cheat. 
In fact, if someone just knows to avoid obvious( to Houdini ) bad moves, this is enough for 2300, you'd draw and win most games.
  
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Reply #233 - 02/18/13 at 11:09:48
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The last 9th round game:



Performance:
1      10      27            Valkov Vladimir      2043      BUL      4.0      w ˝
2      9      29            Kirchev Krasimir      1958      BUL      3.0      s 1
3      3      3      IM      Enchev Ivajlo      2441      BUL      6.0      s ˝
4      7      9      IM      Kukov Velislav      2392      BUL      5.5      w ˝
5      4      4      IM      Bratanov Zsivko      2438      BUL      2.5      w 1
6      3      5      GM      Popchev Milko      2434      BUL      6.0      s 0
7      6      26            Galunova Tsveta      2044      BUL      5.0      w ˝
8      5      12      IM      Marholev Dimitar      2333      BUL      5.0      s 1
9      4      7      IM      Dimitrov Radoslav      2403      BUL      6.0      s ˝

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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #232 - 02/17/13 at 10:11:33
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8th round game:
Some say it's very interesting.  Wink

  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #231 - 02/16/13 at 19:43:08
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This puts me in mind of the PCA ratings of the '90s which gave a variance for each player ...
  
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Reply #230 - 02/16/13 at 19:38:21
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8th round result:
5 12 IM Marholev Dimitar 2333 4˝   0 - 1   4 Ivanov Borislav 2342 11

The 7th round game:



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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #229 - 02/15/13 at 16:51:52
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7th round result:
6 11 Ivanov Borislav 2342 3˝   ˝ - ˝   3˝ Galunova Tsveta 2044 26

6th round loss in pgn:

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Reply #228 - 02/15/13 at 12:28:53
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6th round result:
3 5 GM Popchev Milko 2434 3˝   1 - 0   3˝ Ivanov Borislav 2342 11

5th round victory as pgn:

  
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Reply #227 - 02/14/13 at 21:08:05
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Reply #226 - 02/14/13 at 21:00:31
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...And some strange things continue to happen:

Name      Ivanov Borislav
Starting rank      11
Rating      2342
Rating national      2193
Rating international      2342
Ratingperformance      2403
FIDE rtg +/-      8.7
Points      3.5
Rank      6
Federation      BUL
Club/City      Viktory, Blagoevgrad
Ident-Number      1352
Fide-ID      2903741
 
Rd.      Bo.      SNo            Name      Rtg      FED      Pts.      Res.
1      10      27            Valkov Vladimir      2043      BUL      1.0      w ˝
2      9      29            Kirchev Krasimir      1958      BUL      1.5      s 1
3      3      3      IM      Enchev Ivajlo      2441      BUL      3.5      s ˝
4      7      9      IM      Kukov Velislav      2392      BUL      3.5      w ˝
5      4      4      IM      Bratanov Zsivko      2438      BUL      2.5      w 1
6      3      5      GM      Popchev Milko      2434      BUL      3.5      s     (- tomorrow)

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http://chess-results.com/tnr91883.aspx?art=9&lan=1&fed=BUL&wi=821&snr=11
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #225 - 02/14/13 at 20:25:41
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GeneM wrote on 02/10/13 at 22:18:46:
Otherwise, what's next: arresting someone for having more money in their bank account than their low wage job can explain?


It depends how much, suddenly dumping millions into a bank account is going to draw attention yes.

I really hope that this won't be an ongoing controversy in chess. What would be devastating is if one of the really big names was found to be cheating.   
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #224 - 02/14/13 at 17:00:09
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Yes, probably very easy to do. Well not if the boards/receivers used some proper encryption but I have a bad feeling they probably didn't think of the need for that. They should!
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #223 - 02/14/13 at 16:13:08
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RdC wrote on 02/11/13 at 00:52:42:
If someone or something was feeding him computer suggestions, the mechanism remains unknown.


A worrying thought. Newer models of Sensory Boards as used for live transmission of games have wireless capability. This is an advantage for tournament organisers as they don't have to have wires running all over the venue. But suppose there was a concealed device which could read these transmissions. Half the cheater's problems are potentially solved.
  
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