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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #252 - 03/26/13 at 17:00:35
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Vass wrote on 03/25/13 at 18:26:38:
Emil Sutovsky's open letter to FIDE:

Top chess professionals and regular competitors in FIDE rated events share the view that computer-assisted cheating is a major problem in chess.


A description of the problem is still awaited. Whilst there's the current mystery of the inconsistent Bulgarian, are they suggesting that players are routinely consulting external sources during play? This has always been illegal for OTB play and needs no new Laws of Chess to forbid it.

Lower rated players can legally defeat GMs, no matter how much the GMs might wish to outlaw this.


  
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Reply #251 - 03/25/13 at 18:26:38
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Emil Sutovsky's open letter to FIDE:
Source: http://www.facebook.com/groups/313594380772/permalink/10151331455225773/

24.03.2013

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Emil Sutovsky
Open letter sent to FIDE today.

Dear Mr. Ilyumzhinov,

On behalf of the Association of Chess Professionals let me draw your attention to the open letter that was recently circulated by the ACP Board to the chess community and signed by more than 700 active players from all over the world.

Top chess professionals and regular competitors in FIDE rated events share the view that computer-assisted cheating is a major problem in chess. The number of recent scandals involving possible cheating situation has become critical and chess players believe that this damages the image of the game of chess and threatens its future.

Chess players are asking the ACP to address FIDE in order to take all necessary steps for fighting this plague. Actually, it is the very first time in the history of chess that any petition gathered such a massive support from the players.

The ACP has already developed many ideas on how to confront computer-assisted cheating and is ready to work with FIDE to improve our common world. I strongly believe that our proposals will assist the FIDE President and the FIDE Presidential Board in taking the proper action. However, the issue must be carefully examined in order to avoid any hasty decisions that may ruin the whole idea.

The ACP therefore suggests to establish a joint ACP-FIDE Commission under the aegis of FIDE in order to tackle the computer-assisted cheating problem. The commission should include not only FIDE and ACP officials, but also chess players and other chess professionals. The ACP suggests that the Commission be set up in the following weeks, and consist of 6 members, with nominations to be equally divided between FIDE and ACP (3 members from each side). The Commission shall work in the close cooperation with other FIDE Commissions - that will enable the most efficient working procedure.

We expect the fruitful cooperation, resulting in a concrete proposals to be submitted for approval of the FIDE General Assembly in September 2013.

Let me conclude by expressing the hope that the joint FIDE-ACP Anti-Cheating Commission will serve as the ground for an effective action in the interest of chess.

Sincerely Yours,

Grandmaster Emil Sutovsky
ACP President

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Reply #250 - 03/23/13 at 10:31:48
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Additional information - GM Oleg Korneev's appeal to the Spanish Chess Federation (Source: http://www.facebook.com/groups/chessbg/)

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Siguiente escribio el GM Korneev Oleg:
" "Estimados amigos,

Recientemente ha aparecido en España el jugador búlgaro Borislav Ivanov, ID FIDE 2903741, participando en el torneo de Ajedrez Rápido de Paz Ziganda.

http://chess-results.com/tnr93301.aspx?art=9&lan=1&fed=BUL&turdet=YES&flag=30&wi...

Hemos recibido distintas denuncias contra el mencionado jugador, por parte de reputados Grandes Maestros y Maestros Internacionales que nos merecen toda la credibilidad, declarando que el jugador hacía trampas en las partidas, usando algún medio electrónico.

Sobre este jugador ya pesaban sospechas debido a su actuación en algunos torneos de Croacia, que han sido publicadas en distintos medios.

Por nuestra parte, poco podemos hacer en este momento, entre otras cosas porque el torneo mencionado no era evaluable ni para FIDE ni para FEDA y también porque, ante una intervención oficial, lo primero es la presunción de inocencia y en este caso las únicas pruebas son las declaraciones mencionadas.

Pero consideramos que la gravedad del asunto merece nuestra atención y os rogamos pongáis en alerta a los organizadores de vuestra Federación."

Con eso se puede cerrar el paso a Espana a ese mierda Ivanov.

Saludos

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"...ese mierda Ivanov."  Shocked
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Additional: Zdenko Padjen (Croatia) blog - http://zpadjen.bloger.index.hr/
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EDIT: A new Chessbase article - http://chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4009251/a-game-of-chicken-ivanov-ride...
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #249 - 03/20/13 at 09:12:20
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Look at what I have found in the net! (Source: http://www.facebook.com/groups/chessbg/)

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Pise: Davor Komljenovic
Prima: Bogdan Lalic
Tema: spanske teme
Sto posto je imao kompjuter. Sve igra precizno i jos da remi bez borbe Barsovu u predzadnjem kolu i onda veli u zadnjem da moze Barsov biti prvi i nece ni remi. Nesto sam sitno pogrijesio u Trompowskom. Cijelo vrijeme sam se bojao kompjutera a imao sam utisak da je koristio kompjuter kad sam igrao.
Sto nije igrao sa Barsovom; da je njega dobio mogao je sa mnom remi u zadnjem kolu.
Vidio sam kad je pregovarao da racuna da sigurno dobiva. Nije znao biti lukav (kad ima kompjuter), ne znam kako ali sad cu podrzati svaku akciju protiv Borislava Ivanova jer me je opljackao. Istina da je bio remi onda bi bio Barsov prvi (nevjerojatno s 2,5 boda manjim buholzom). Barria je govorio kod pregovora da ovaj sigurno ima kompjuter, tako se drzao i Ivanov (da on sigurno dobiva), a sad sam uvjeren da stvarno ima kompjuter. Slobodan Kovacevic je jos prije cijelo vrijeme govorio kako Ivanov ne igra posteno, uopce nije gledao svoje pozicije. Da nije bilo onog Ivanova, ja i Barsov i Fedorchuk imamo po tri remija bili bi prvi sa 6,5 iz 8. On je lansirao i one koji nisu igrali s njim. Filemon Cruz ima pola boda vise od mene a nije igrao s njime, Larino ni on nije igrao s kompjuterom. Proklet bio Ivanov taj je ko vampir.

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Pise: Bogdan Lalic
Prima: Barsov Alexei
Tema: Partija sa Borislavom Ivanovom

Mozes li mi poslati partiju sa Borislavom Ivanovom iz Pamplone?

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Pise: Barsov Alexei
Prima: Bogdan Lalic
Tema: Partija sa Borislavom Ivanovom

1.d4 d5 remi

Nisam htio da igram sa njim jer ocigledno nekako koristi kompjuter

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Pise: Darko Feletar
Prima: Bogdan Lalic
Tema: Prepiska u vezi Ivanova.

Aha, tek sada se Badzo opametio, kada je dobio krumpir od Ivanova.

Sjecam se da je podrzavao tog Ivanova za njegove akcije u Zadru, jer je "sredio Zgubidane“.

Tek je sada promijenio plocu, kada je Ivanov sredio i njega.

Karma uvijek nepogresivo pronadje put da nauci covjeka lekciju.

Bas zanimljivo!
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Poslao velemajstor Bogdan Lalic

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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #248 - 03/19/13 at 23:22:27
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until borislav is given a voight-kampff test nothing can be certain

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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #247 - 03/19/13 at 22:19:15
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JDzokic wrote on 03/19/13 at 17:18:25:
do you have a better explanation? besides he magically has transformed into Kasparov within the past 6 months? 
As an atheist I'd rather bet on a pact with the devil. Like you wrote:

There is no way to detect a pact with the devil, officially he doesn't even exist, which is his greatest con, a pact with the devil is completely wireless, untraceable, undetectable. Even if you put this guy inside a faraday cage it would not do anything, because, you know, the devil. Or perhaps the devil has invented psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology specifically to assist this guy, who obviously has offered his soul to burn eternally in afterlife. After all souls are also completely wireless, untraceable and undetectable.
You know atheists like me actually believe in god and the devil, don't you? We just refuse to admit it, like Barnaby, Eric and Matemax refuse to admit that psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology work.
  

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Reply #246 - 03/19/13 at 19:17:53
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Oh I get it, JDzokic is talking about make believe.  I understand make believe, to a point.

Carry on.
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #245 - 03/19/13 at 18:26:58
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JDzokic wrote on 03/19/13 at 15:42:35:
psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology

That's either bullshit or the real reason why the pope retired.
  
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Reply #244 - 03/19/13 at 18:25:25
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JDzokic wrote on 03/19/13 at 15:42:35:


In my opinion, especially after this, it's obvious to me that he is using psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology. there is no way to detect these, officially they don't even exist, it is completely wireless, untraceable, undetectable. even if you put this guy inside a faraday cage it would not do anything. 

the real question people should be asking here is "what's the frequency, Kenneth (er Borislav)?"


I'm an electrical engineer/physicist and work with signals every day (currently with the W.M. Keck Observatory).  And I have no idea what on Earth you are talking about...
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #243 - 03/19/13 at 17:18:25
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barnaby wrote on 03/19/13 at 16:36:47:
JDzokic wrote on 03/19/13 at 15:42:35:
it's obvious to me that he is using psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology. there is no way to detect these, officially they don't even exist, it is completely wireless, untraceable, undetectable. even if you put this guy inside a faraday cage it would not do anything. 

the real question people should be asking here is "what's the frequency, Kenneth (er Borislav)?"


so now we in mk ultra/conspiracy territory, eh?




do you have a better explanation? besides he magically has transformed into Kasparov within the past 6 months?  Cheesy
  
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Reply #242 - 03/19/13 at 16:36:47
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JDzokic wrote on 03/19/13 at 15:42:35:
it's obvious to me that he is using psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology. there is no way to detect these, officially they don't even exist, it is completely wireless, untraceable, undetectable. even if you put this guy inside a faraday cage it would not do anything. 

the real question people should be asking here is "what's the frequency, Kenneth (er Borislav)?"


so now we in mk ultra/conspiracy territory, eh?


  
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Reply #241 - 03/19/13 at 15:42:35
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yeah nothing believable because the method being employed here involves technology that is not known to exist by very many people. 

In my opinion, especially after this, it's obvious to me that he is using psychotronics, EEG Heterodyning, V2K technology. there is no way to detect these, officially they don't even exist, it is completely wireless, untraceable, undetectable. even if you put this guy inside a faraday cage it would not do anything. 

the real question people should be asking here is "what's the frequency, Kenneth (er Borislav)?"
  
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Reply #240 - 03/18/13 at 16:11:14
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I meant that its very hard to state anything categorically here. There isn't really any hugely believable interpretation.
  
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Re: Cheating scandals in Croatia & Italy
Reply #239 - 03/18/13 at 14:27:29
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MartinC wrote on 03/18/13 at 13:56:54:
Really fast at times even. Actually wasn't one major theory regarding the earlier event that he got weaker in time pressure thus showing he couldn't use the computer then?

Just very hard to be categorical in any direction here I think.


What? In any direction, what do you mean? That he does not cheat? Of course not...
  
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Reply #238 - 03/18/13 at 13:56:54
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Really fast at times even. Actually wasn't one major theory regarding the earlier event that he got weaker in time pressure thus showing he couldn't use the computer then?

Just very hard to be categorical in any direction here I think.
  
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