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Re: Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
Reply #5 - 05/08/13 at 14:09:32
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MartinC wrote on 05/08/13 at 13:13:18:
Will it stick a few years down the line though under pressure and increments? I really dunno.


True. I guess I could pop in a few minutes of bot practice. But then, since I haven't, I guess it's back on my pile  Wink
  

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Re: Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
Reply #4 - 05/08/13 at 13:47:06
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Just a fun thing that happened to me some months ago. Within just a couple days I got that mate on the board two times in 1 min+1 sec increment bullet. One time I had the pieces, one time I was the defender. Both times the mate was accomplished! I wonder what the stats are to get it in such a short span of time (No, I don't play like hundreds of bullet games per day  GrinSmiley)
  
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Re: Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
Reply #3 - 05/08/13 at 13:13:18
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Will it stick a few years down the line though under pressure and increments? I really dunno. 

Worth studying of course. I've never done it but did have fun ages back working how to mate with things like a bishop/knight/(3,1) leaper all in one piece.
(Much easier!).
  
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Re: Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
Reply #2 - 05/08/13 at 12:17:46
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This used to be on my "life's too short pile". Never got one in decades of play. However a couple of events drove me to studying it, and it's quite easy once the method is learnt.

The first event was when I got to an ending where I had just B+N and my opponent had 4 pawns. I ended up giving up a piece for some of the pawns and drawing. However, during the game it occurred to me that even if I rounded up all the pawns, I'd have to do the K+B mate, with a crowd round me and a 10/sec increment. Having only vaguely studied it (the W method) many years ago, I wasn't relishing the thought.

Then I saw someone post about a different, supposedly easier method, called the Triangle method. I though I'd give it a try, and so I played against the KBNvK bot on ICC with it. I couldn't get it down, but at one point I noticed, oh I could try a W-method from there, but fluffed it at the end. I went back and restudied the W-method, and replayed the bot, which throws random starting positions at you. After a few tries, it became quite routine and easy.

So I reckon about an hour of study and practice (the latter being important to give you experience and confidence) and you can learn it, so there's not much excuse not to.
  

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Re: Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
Reply #1 - 05/08/13 at 11:01:06
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This is also discussed in the RBB vs RB endgame thread. 

If there's enough interest, I will split off that information and put it here.
  
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Woman World Champion can't do knight + bishop mate
05/08/13 at 08:02:54
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Women Fide Grand Prix is currently staged ...
Look at the game in round 4 Ushenina, Anna 2491 – Girya, Olga 2463 ½–½ D11Geneva WGP 20134.2 06.05.2013

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