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Reply #64 - 08/29/19 at 23:27:47
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I hope we'll see this book of Marin published before end of 2019, but I am not sure it will be ready on time...

I recently ordered the book of Demuth on the Dutch Leningrad. His title is 'The Modernized Dutch Defense'. 

Could be interesting too. Any comments from readers?

  
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Reply #63 - 03/07/19 at 15:21:23
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Eagerly awaiting Marin's book! http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/blog/6962
  
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Reply #62 - 03/07/19 at 13:57:20
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brabo wrote on 03/07/19 at 12:23:15:
TD wrote on 03/10/15 at 08:53:44:
Any comments about the quality of the book?

Better late than never  Grin
https://chess-brabo.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-leningrad.html

What a coincidence Brabo, I got this book in the mail just two days ago!  Smiley
  
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TD wrote on 03/10/15 at 08:53:44:
Any comments about the quality of the book?

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Any comments about the quality of the book? Are there new theoretical developments? Is there much verbal explanation? What about the lines versus 1.Nf3 and 1.c4? Index of variations?
  
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Reply #59 - 10/23/14 at 17:16:53
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Book ordered!
  
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Reply #58 - 08/21/14 at 23:08:49
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I studied this line in connection to a CC game I played a couple of years ago as black. I came to the conclusion that I rather wanted my knight on the kingside with 10..Nf6 than 10..Nb6, not only because of what Dr. Tarrasch said. Most of the time (and regardless of whether the knight is on b6 or f6) black will have to play h6 at some point, and after Ne6, Bxe6, dxe6 c6 black sooner or later threatens d5 and picking up the e6 pawn. if white reacts with d4-d5 black can reply with c6-c5 and a weird benoni-type of position has appeared with a white pawn on e6. I think those positions are playable for black since even if white has much more space in the center black has expansion possibilities on both flanks. The engine prefers white to some degree (at least did when I played the game 2011-12) but black definitely has chances. The knight is not really worse than a bishop in such a closed structure. Blacks weakness is prehaps that he has to use the square e8 for any piece which want to travel between the flanks.
In general books aimed at OTB players (which, I guess, almost all chesbooks are) rarely hold up in all lines for CC use. The time to study all positions in such depth is rarely there. (But about this a CC player of your strength probably knows better than me)
  
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Reply #57 - 08/21/14 at 12:55:41
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I bought this book and obtained the position after 11. Qc2 in 1 of my correspondence games:

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Reply #56 - 07/25/14 at 22:06:14
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tipau wrote on 07/23/14 at 18:44:59:
It may interest some that the critical line 8.Re1 Qf7 9.e4 fxe4 10.Ng5 Qxc4 11.Ngxe4 was played and analysed by Gelfand and Svidler recently. A rapid game but still...it continued 11...Nxe4 12.Nxe4 Qf7 13.Rf4 Bf6 14.Nd5 and Svidler deviated from M&M with 14...g5 - all prep by the sounds of it

Game analysis starts around 4:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpS8D8h80w0


This line was tried in a corr-game 2012-2013. Black held after being maybe a tad uncomfortable. I think M & M:s line look OK too.
https://www.iccf.com/game?id=418626
  
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Reply #55 - 07/23/14 at 18:44:59
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It may interest some that the critical line 8.Re1 Qf7 9.e4 fxe4 10.Ng5 Qxc4 11.Ngxe4 was played and analysed by Gelfand and Svidler recently. A rapid game but still...it continued 11...Nxe4 12.Nxe4 Qf7 13.Rf4 Bf6 14.Nd5 and Svidler deviated from M&M with 14...g5 - all prep by the sounds of it

Game analysis starts around 4:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpS8D8h80w0
  
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Reply #54 - 06/29/14 at 06:19:35
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The book made me remember one of my games I once played against the Leningrad. My 12th move is not mentioned in the book.



This only shows that the book is rather complete.
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Reply #53 - 06/27/14 at 08:44:03
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Looks utterly horrible for black on first impression, but then it is a Leningrad dutch Wink 

If he's covering that position, I imagine he must have similar ideas to e4 covered even if not immediately.
  
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Reply #52 - 06/26/14 at 18:39:11
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I compared the book with some recent repertoire books (Watson, Schandorff, Kornev) and it looks indeed pretty good.

One line I looked at is

This move is not mentioned by Malaniuk, but is given by Rudel in his "Zuka" book.
The position looks not that easy for Black.
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Re: New Leningrad Dutch Book
Reply #51 - 06/19/14 at 20:14:27
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tipau wrote on 06/18/14 at 22:34:35:
Viking wrote on 06/18/14 at 07:13:52:
Is the book written in the same format as eg the safest/sharpest sicilian books? I really like that way of organizing and studying the opening.


There's no quick rep/step-by-step sections, it's just theory then a couple of complete games each chapter. The translation's a bit weird in places too but I haven't come across anything I couldn't understand (or thought I understood anyway!). It's certainly not as good as other books on the Leningrad in terms of strategic explanations, more of a theory update.


I have recently received the book, and I agree that it is not as explanatory regarding strategic plans and motifs as, say, kindermann. I think that the main benefit is that the reader gets access to the recommendations and analysis of one of the main authorities on the subject. Malaniuk has in my view been the most important driver of the development of the theory in the Leningrad for a long time - both through his successes, and occasionally in his failures.
I have not yet evaluated all the recommendations (chances are I never will) but where I have done so I have been surprised by how well they seem to hold up. As an example the recommendation in the mainline after 7..Qe8 8.b3 e5 is not what has been generally thought best, but I happened to look at this line some time ago and all I can say is taht the analysis in the book is spot on. In some instances it improves on my findings, and nothing I found is missed. It is not often that a repertoire book has this level of quality.
It is true that the explanatory prose is not especially detailed and often reduced to a simple statement regarding each line, but I don't mind as long as the lines are good! This probably means that the book is less aimed at someone trying to pick up this opening from scratch, and more as a guideline for players who already have some experience.
Regarding the discussion on the line after 8.Re1 Qf7 9.e4 fxe4 10.Nxe4 I had the impression that a quick Nc6 made this pertty harmless and that the threat came from 10.Ng5 - but I have not yet checked the books recommendation in this line.

  
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Re: New Leningrad Dutch Book
Reply #50 - 06/18/14 at 23:31:19
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9.e4 fxe4 10.Nxe4 has also been considered highly critical the last few years, and it's played much more often than 10.Ng5 (in OTB practice at least). I don't really know the theory of either line as well as I should, but my impression was that 10.Nxe4 was the bigger problem, and it's not illogical that it's the main line in the book.
  
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