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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #7 - 01/28/14 at 11:25:53
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WSS wrote on 01/28/14 at 10:44:10:
  The flip side of this is Kramnik's loss to Ivanchuk with 1.e4 d6 and the Pirc in the Candidates trying to create a fight at all cost - a decision I'm sure he wishes he could take back.


I like Yasser Seirawan's take on that game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1gWIfVajlM&list=PLVWaFpMwtaGiVZ77NhhvGGGzvF7oFSW..., especially beginning around the 15-minute mark.  Seirawan is a genuine Pirc guru, having played it his entire life, and I respect his opinion a lot in general.  That game is a pretty good illustration of how not to play for a win as Black, in my opinion.  It's clear that Kramnik didn't know the nuances--not from a theoretical perspective, but a practical one.  Seirawan may not be as strong as Kramnik anymore (and likely never was, though Seirawas was an extremely strong player in his day), but with his practical experience he immediately knew where Black began to go wrong and suggested improvements.  

Of course, Kramnik faces an entirely different problem in the last round of a tournament that he needs to win than we do!  So we can forgive his choice.  

In my own experience, I found that Alekhine's Defense was a good offbeat/secondary weapon, because I could get it on the board on move 1.  On the other hand, I played it out of curiosity and want of variety rather than searching for winning chances.  But a secondary defense should be at least 95% sound, and you should be able to get it on the board very early.  I wouldn't think that 1.e4 e5 makes a very good secondary defense, unless you already have a ton of experience with it in the past. 
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #6 - 01/28/14 at 11:19:50
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But in the example with Aronian-Van Wely, what may have played a role in the opening choice is also what Carlsen has stated, i.e. that Aronian doesn't perform well against the Dutch. Maybe this was a bigger reason rather than it being a last round game.
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #5 - 01/28/14 at 10:44:10
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All good advice indeed.  Practically speaking, I would do the same regarding sticking with what I know well - particularly if contending for a tournament title.  

I guess what may have inspired my question (aside from the pain meds I am currently taking!) was Loek van Wely's terrific win over Aronian in the last round of Tata Steel.  The Dutch defense was a fascinating choice (which he doesn't seem to play it too often according to my db) which led to a tension filled game (in addition to being quite thematic!) and an exciting finish.  A somewhat different scenario than I painted in my OP as Loek was not near the top of the standings and had less to lose.  The flip side of this is Kramnik's loss to Ivanchuk with 1.e4 d6 and the Pirc in the Candidates trying to create a fight at all cost - a decision I'm sure he wishes he could take back.

All of this led me to thinking about which defenses which probably would not be your main every day defense (thus adding a little surprise factor) that give the most chances of leading to a tension filled, decisive game with a corresponding higher risk of losing.  I didn't select the Sicilian or Slav (both of which I play) because they are so "well trodden" and lines like the c3 Sicilian and Exchange Slav can be a "buzz kill" for the Black player looking for a fight.

Anyway, interesting discussion and thanks for the responses!
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #4 - 01/28/14 at 09:59:27
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Very sensible advice Eric ! Also, the situation posed is that your opponent is a strong player. Would it be unreasonable to assume that the leader, half a point in front of you, would be the only person you would expect to be a strong player heading for a draw ? Therefore, all the more reason to stick to what you know.
Playing the Caro Kann and Chebanenko Slav as my main defences, the most obvious drawish line would be the Exchange Slav. Contrary to it's reputation, I've found the black side of an Exchange Slav to be one of the highest scoring percentages for me, 15% above expected. Once again though statistics can lead anywhere, as I've only faced it three times !
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #3 - 01/28/14 at 09:41:06
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I think that people should play their normal openings, unless you are playing someone with a very high level of overall chess technique: IM or at least 2300ish, let's say.  You're much more likely to win when you know what's going on, what to do in the positions you get, have a lot of experience with the structures, and don't fall behind on the clock working everything out.

On the other hand it's easy for me to say that, as my normal openings give excellent winning chances anyway: the Taimanov/Paulsen/Kan complex vs. 1.e4, and against 1.d4 the Noteboom/Semi-Slav or Classical Dutch have been the defenses I played the most.  

Obviously it doesn't hurt to be able to play multiple defenses (I've also played the French, the Caro, Alekhine's, the Nimzo/Blumenfeld, the Grunfeld, the Tarrasch, Classical Slav, various QGDs over the many years I've been playing), but in general I've never had problems finding winning chances with whatever was my "normal" opening at the time.  You can often vary within your main opening to get more winning chances instead of scrapping it for something else entirely.  If you play the French you can switch from Classical to the McCutcheon, and if you're worried about the Exchange, there are always opposite-side castled positions or playing 4.Bd3 c5 with an IQP, which should be enough to outplay an opponent.  Overly sharp tactical lines are often NOT what you want to play anyway in my opinion, because they are prone to perpetuals, mass exchanges in some variations, having been worked out very deeply, etc.   

If you're facing someone much stronger than yourself your best bet is to stay "in book" and play like a Grandmaster as long as possible, wouldn't you think?  Which means playing your normal stuff, the stuff you know best.  I'd think that the only time you'd consistently get more winning chances by doing the opposite is when you're facing someone much weaker than yourself and trying to avoid them following a long theoretical line.
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #2 - 01/28/14 at 09:37:58
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Well the main thing is to be determined enough to actually play and keep playing for a long time Smiley Ideally anything that'll keep a lot of tension going well towards the first control.

Plenty of choices that'll do that.
  
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Re: Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
Reply #1 - 01/28/14 at 08:07:21
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1.e4 - Sicilian Najdorf
1.d4 (1.c4, 1.Nf3) - King's Indian
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Last Round Black Defense to Play for a Win
01/28/14 at 02:39:17
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It's the last round of the tournament, you are behind by a half point and have the Black pieces against a strong opponent.  You're determined to win and willing to take risks - what do you play?  (Feel free not to limit your answer to practical considerations such as whether you actually know these defenses well enough to play them!?)

To start off the discussion, my own suggestions would be defenses which don't tend to offer obvious drawing lines for White; lead to active, fighting games along with the increased risk of losing:

1.e4 - Modern, Alekhine(?)
1.d4 - Dutch (Leningrad), Benoni
1.c4 - 1…e5 KingsEnglish but not sure what variation (perhaps the flexible 2…d6 and look for ways to make an interesting game)
4.Nf3 - probably 1…Nf6 and look to transpose

What do you think?
  
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