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Question: Who's going to win?


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Carlsen +1 16 (17.6%) Carlsen +2 41 (45.1%) Carlsen +3 7 (7.7%) Carlsen +4 or higher 0 (0.0%) Anand +1 8 (8.8%) Anand +2 5 (5.5%) Anand +3 0 (0.0%) Anand +4 or higher 0 (0.0%) Draw and Carlsen wins tiebreaks 7 (7.7%) Draw and Anand wins tiebreaks 0 (0.0%) Carlsen wins but not sure on score 6 (6.6%) Anand wins but not sure on score 1 (1.1%) Total votes: 91 « Created by: LostTactic on: 11/04/14 at 18:04:29 »

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Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship (Read 101475 times)

Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #132 - 11/12/14 at 16:54:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 11/12/14 at 14:33:16: You know it's not the most exciting game ever when the biggest "controversy" is over 21...cxd5 or 21...Bxd5. This pretty much held true for the rest of the game. Solid draw by both players.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #131 - 11/12/14 at 16:31:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	GabrielGale wrote on 11/12/14 at 16:18:18: GM l'Ami tweeted: Quote: Erwin l'Ami @erwinlami · 11m 11 minutes ago Don't really get why everybody declares this game drawn. For instance 41.Qxf7 Qd2 42.Ke4 d3 43.Kd4!? looks very testing to me. The answer for that would be the computer engines spitting out 0.00s right and left. Anand has been thinking nearly 7 minutes and counting over his 43rd move, however.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #130 - 11/12/14 at 16:27:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	GabrielGale wrote on 11/12/14 at 16:21:02: Then GM Nigel Short gave this free chess tip: Quote: For learners: Q &P endgames can be drawn even many pawns down if you have one advanced passed pawn. That is why Anand is not in trouble. I'm always learning.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #129 - 11/12/14 at 16:25:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	It seems some accuracy is still required here. 43.h4 is on the board.


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GabrielGale Senior Member Offline Who was Thursday? Posts: 471 Location: Sydney Joined: 02/28/08 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #128 - 11/12/14 at 16:21:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Then GM Nigel Short gave this free chess tip: Quote: For learners: Q &P endgames can be drawn even many pawns down if you have one advanced passed pawn. That is why Anand is not in trouble.

	http://www.toutautre.blogspot.com/ A Year With Nessie ...... aka GM John Shaw's The King's Gambit (http://thekinggambit.blogspot.com.au/)
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GabrielGale Senior Member Offline Who was Thursday? Posts: 471 Location: Sydney Joined: 02/28/08 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #127 - 11/12/14 at 16:18:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	GM l'Ami tweeted: Quote: Erwin l'Ami @erwinlami · 11m 11 minutes ago Don't really get why everybody declares this game drawn. For instance 41.Qxf7 Qd2 42.Ke4 d3 43.Kd4!? looks very testing to me.

	http://www.toutautre.blogspot.com/ A Year With Nessie ...... aka GM John Shaw's The King's Gambit (http://thekinggambit.blogspot.com.au/)
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TonyRo God Member Offline I'm gonna crack your skull! Posts: 1846 Location: Cleveland, OH Joined: 11/26/07 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #126 - 11/12/14 at 16:00:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	As does this queen ending.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #125 - 11/12/14 at 15:38:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	This Q+N vs Q+N endgame looks like a sure draw.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #124 - 11/12/14 at 14:45:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	TonyRo wrote on 11/12/14 at 14:39:21: Seth_Xoma wrote on 11/12/14 at 14:36:58: I'm with Svidler - 21...cxd5 seemed a lot more natural to me. I agree - the longer I look at this and the more the game unfolds, the less I'm happy with Vishy's pawn on c6. Svidler has suggested than Anand may have underestimated the slight problems that 23.Qd3 poses Black. Anand is playing to equalize now...when earlier I was wondering how he may begin pressing for a win.


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TonyRo God Member Offline I'm gonna crack your skull! Posts: 1846 Location: Cleveland, OH Joined: 11/26/07 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #123 - 11/12/14 at 14:39:21	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 11/12/14 at 14:36:58: I'm with Svidler - 21...cxd5 seemed a lot more natural to me. I agree - the longer I look at this and the more the game unfolds, the less I'm happy with Vishy's pawn on c6.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #122 - 11/12/14 at 14:36:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	I'm with Svidler - 21...cxd5 seemed a lot more natural to me. Carlsen's position seems a lot better now than 3, 4 moves ago. Maybe he can still squeeze some juice out of this.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #121 - 11/12/14 at 14:33:34	Post Tools	Print Post
	to my eye Black looks completely fine now, but no doubt Carlsen will try to squeeze something


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #120 - 11/12/14 at 14:33:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	You know it's not the most exciting game ever when the biggest "controversy" is over 21...cxd5 or 21...Bxd5.


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TonyRo God Member Offline I'm gonna crack your skull! Posts: 1846 Location: Cleveland, OH Joined: 11/26/07 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #119 - 11/12/14 at 14:10:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 11/12/14 at 13:57:17: It looks like Carslen has passed the first move advantage successfully to Black, per usual. I'm not a world champion, but I didn't understand 16.h3 at all. I do like Carlsen's 18.Nxc6 bxc6 19.c4 plan though - seems roughly level now to me.


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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship Reply #118 - 11/12/14 at 13:57:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	It looks like Carslen has passed the first move advantage successfully to Black, per usual.


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