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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #7 - 03/27/15 at 17:12:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	another appearance by ...Ra7 ... Download game in pgn format


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BobbyDigital80 Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 357 Joined: 05/15/08 Gender:	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #6 - 02/18/15 at 00:43:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	This thread has some good information on the Keres/Graf line: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1195529656


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TonyRo God Member Offline I'm gonna crack your skull! Posts: 1849 Location: Cleveland, OH Joined: 11/26/07 Gender:	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #5 - 02/17/15 at 16:18:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	Pretty fascinating line - makes me wonder about earlier White deviations on moves 12, 14, 16, etc.


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RdC God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 868 Joined: 05/17/08	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #4 - 02/17/15 at 15:43:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	MartinC wrote on 02/16/15 at 09:04:43: in visual terms, it looks fairly awful for black. Ra7 to allow Qa8 isn't precisely an obvious idea! Ra7 and Qa8 is sometimes an idea for Black in Hedgehog positions. For White in a Reti, there is a middle game idea of playing Ra2 and Qa1.


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Anonymous3 Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 307 Joined: 08/15/08	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #3 - 02/17/15 at 05:26:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	MartinC wrote on 02/16/15 at 09:04:43: Well you can see why Davies was rude about it - in visual terms, it looks fairly awful for black. Ra7 to allow Qa8 isn't precisely an obvious idea! The position after 26 Nxf5 in that correspondence game looks risky for black to me, in practice at least. The king is rather exposed/the white pawns quite mobile. Maybe the comps have some earlier improvement. MartinC wrote on 02/16/15 at 09:04:43: Well you can see why Davies was rude about it - in visual terms, it looks fairly awful for black. Ra7 to allow Qa8 isn't precisely an obvious idea! The position after 26 Nxf5 in that correspondence game looks risky for black to me, in practice at least. The king is rather exposed/the white pawns quite mobile. Maybe the comps have some earlier improvement. The computers like 24...Bf6! 25.Bxf5 Ne7 26.Be4 Qa8 27.Nd4 Bxd5∓


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MartinC God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 2115 Joined: 07/24/06	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #2 - 02/16/15 at 09:04:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well you can see why Davies was rude about it - in visual terms, it looks fairly awful for black. Ra7 to allow Qa8 isn't precisely an obvious idea! The position after 26 Nxf5 in that correspondence game looks risky for black to me, in practice at least. The king is rather exposed/the white pawns quite mobile. Maybe the comps have some earlier improvement.


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Jupp53 God Member Offline be Posts: 988 Location: Frankfurt/Main Joined: 01/04/09 Gender:	Re: Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? Reply #1 - 02/16/15 at 07:56:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	Download game in pgn format Maybe something to look at?

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Anonymous3 Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 307 Joined: 08/15/08	Keres Variation-is f5 really so bad? 02/16/15 at 01:02:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	In the Keres Variation of the Ruy Lopez after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 0-0 Be7 6 Re1 b5 7 Bb3 d6 8 c3 0-0 9 h3 Na5 10 Bc2 c5 11 d4 Nd7 12 Nbd2 exd4 13 cxd4 Nc6 14 d5 Nce5 15 Nxe5 Nxe5 16 f4 Ng6 17 Nf3, Nigel Davies in his book, Play 1 e4 e5, gives 17...f5 a "?" but after 18.e5, only considers 18...dxe5? and 18...Bh4. Is there anything wrong with 18...Bb7! 19.e6 Ra7! as recommended by the computers and assessed as slightly better for black?


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